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Re:The decline in U.S. life expectancy is unlike anything se... by todd8 on Thursday October 24, 2019 @08:25AM (#21343913)
I encourage readers to see the original CDC report [1]. It full of facts, but quite easy to read. Skim over the data, it’s presented in graphs and tables.

Unfortunately, this is one of those subjects that numerous commenters see through their own political or philosophical perspectives of the headlines without consulting the underlying data. Check out things for yourself.

There are some disturbing trends I noticed while looking over the data on my phone. Homicides, suicides, and accidents of young men have continued to increase and appear to me to be pulling down overall life expectancies (which have changed a small amount in the last few years).

[1] https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/hus/hus17.pdf

Re:The decline in U.S. life expectancy is unlike anything se... by Balgair on Thursday October 24, 2019 @01:21PM (#21346837)
A few points I saw:

Pg. 8: Alzheimer's Disease caused deaths for both males and females increased a fair bit! And for males, Unintentional Deaths also increased recently. Note that the Y-axis is in a LOG scale; any movement upwards is a lot.

Pg. 10: Yeah, Juul and the like really are hurting children. Grades 2 & 3 Obesity are increasing too. Both are not good.

Pg. 11: Asthma in black children has gone up a fair amount.

Pg. 14: West Coast and Virginian essential vaccination is under 2/3 babies (3 years or younger). That is WELL below herd immunity. New England, Deep South, and Plains states are above 3/4.

Pg. 21: Ages 15-44 have seen an uptick in mortality. Note: The y-axis is in LOG scale, so it's been a fair bit of an uptick.

Pg. 22: A big uptick in infant mortality due to unintentional injuries.

Pg. 23: ... Jesus ... a huge increase in child suicide rates and an increase in teen homicide and suicide rates. Note: The y-axis is in LOG scale.

Pg. 24: HIV deaths are WAY down (!), unintentional injuries and liver cirrhosis are up.

Pg. 25: Alzheimer's deaths in the elderly are up a fair amount.

pg. 26: Holy shit ... overdose rates are just ... wow ...

pg. 27: Appalachia and New England ... good Lord ... I mean, you hear things about it all, but wow.

pg. 29: Cirrhosis deaths in middle aged men are really climbing. The booze, it ain't good.

Aside: On the increases in 'unintentional death'. I get a whiff of the issues that Colorado Springs had with their teen suicide cell a few years back. The coroner, in deference to the religious families of the deceased, would label the deaths not as a suicide, but as something different. The problem became that since these deaths were not recorded properly, CDC officials were not alerted and the suicide cell was allowed to fester. There were a lot of kids that died as a result of that. The increase in 'unintentional deaths' may be something similar, where the coroners are recording the deaths in deference to the wishes of the family. I've not a shred of proof on this, but I get a strong smell of it from causally looking at the data.

Re:The decline in U.S. life expectancy is unlike anything se... by LinuxBender on Thursday October 24, 2019 @01:39PM (#21347052)
I would add that Cirrhosis isn't just alcohol. Another major contributor is sugar and complex carbs. There are about 87 million Americans that meet the criteria for Metabolic Syndrome and that is directly related and getting worse with time.
Re:The decline in U.S. life expectancy is unlike anything se... by blacksmith_tb on Thursday October 24, 2019 @02:36PM (#21347757)
It's also caused by hepatitis (B and C)[1] which effects millions of people in the US[2].

1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cirrhosis#Causes

2: https://www.cdc.gov/hepatitis/hcv/cfaq.htm#statistics

Re:The decline in U.S. life expectancy is unlike anything se... by ToFundorNot on Thursday October 24, 2019 @07:50PM (#21350357)
and https://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/health-topics/hemochromatosis which affects an estimated 30% of americans
Re:The decline in U.S. life expectancy is unlike anything se... by toomuchtodo on Thursday October 24, 2019 @03:28PM (#21348321)
Hepatitis B adult vaccination rates seem to be woefully low in the US (25-33%), and while there is treatment for Hep C, it is very expensive ($84k for a three month course).

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/imz-managers/coverage/adultvaxv....

Re:The decline in U.S. life expectancy is unlike anything se... by phnofive on Thursday October 24, 2019 @02:39PM (#21347779)
Simple carbs?
Re:The decline in U.S. life expectancy is unlike anything se... by LinuxBender on Thursday October 24, 2019 @03:27PM (#21348297)
[Edited] I am awake now. Simple carbs have more of a glycemic load and thus more impact on the liver. When your body responds to glucose, it releases insulin. Over time you build up a resistance to insulin. Your liver has to compensate for this by using up stored glutathione. I am very much over simplifying for the purpose of HN, but long story short, sugar, processed foods, grains, put a heavy load on the liver and pancreas

For example, green leafy vegetables are complex carbohydrates. They have very little glycemic load and will not harm your liver.

Pretty much all carbs are bad news. Always subtract fiber content from carbs and what is left over, your liver and pancreas will be dealing with. Vegetables have a lot of fiber for example.

Re:The decline in U.S. life expectancy is unlike anything se... by throwaway2048 on Thursday October 24, 2019 @04:03PM (#21348615)
You have the two backwards.
Re:The decline in U.S. life expectancy is unlike anything se... by LinuxBender on Thursday October 24, 2019 @04:11PM (#21348681)
sorry yes, multi-tasking :-) thankyou. I shall get back to work.
Re:The decline in U.S. life expectancy is unlike anything se... by throwaway93132 on Thursday October 24, 2019 @04:03PM (#21348618)
"Pg. 10: Yeah, Juul and the like really are hurting children. Grades 2 & 3 Obesity are increasing too. Both are not good."

I read the charts a little differently - overall tobacco product usage has gone down quite significantly, with cigarettes and cigars driving the majority of that. I think it's a safe assumption to make that at least some of that drop is due to the switch to e-cigarettes like Juul. Obviously "how much" of that drop is due to the increase in e-cigarettes vs. the natural decline of smoking is in question, but I would not draw a conclusion that e-cigarettes are hurting children.

Re:The decline in U.S. life expectancy is unlike anything se... by Steltek on Thursday October 24, 2019 @03:00PM (#21347996)
Why does the report not put spotlight put on car crash deaths? Footnote links to data that says over 1/4 of unintentional injuries are from motor vehicle deaths, more than even overdoses. Add on that sitting on your butt in traffic or keeping your kids "safe" indoors is going to increase obesity and heart disease.
Re:The decline in U.S. life expectancy is unlike anything se... by KingMachiavelli on Thursday October 24, 2019 @02:03PM (#21347341)
Do you have a source on the Colorado Springs suicide cell/coroner cover up? The number of high-school age related suicides I heard about seemed high but it wasn't like I could compare it to someplace else.
Re:The decline in U.S. life expectancy is unlike anything se... by Balgair on Thursday October 24, 2019 @02:43PM (#21347823)
https://www.newsweek.com/2016/10/28/teen-suicide-contagious-...

It wasn't a cover up, per se, just a compassionate coroner that unintentionally threw a wrench into the apparatus.

Compare it to the Palo Alto one from a bit ago:

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/disturbing-suicide-cluster-pro...

Re:The decline in U.S. life expectancy is unlike anything se... by wysifnwyg on Thursday October 24, 2019 @04:52PM (#21349036)
Considering the recent piece I heard on NPR about the link between sugar and Alzheimer's Disease and the anti-fat/pro-sugar campaign, that makes sense that those numbers are up significantly.
Re:The decline in U.S. life expectancy is unlike anything se... by toomuchtodo on Thursday October 24, 2019 @03:12PM (#21348134)
Thank you for taking the time to provide a synopsis!
Re:The decline in U.S. life expectancy is unlike anything se... by Balgair on Thursday October 24, 2019 @03:26PM (#21348291)
It is actually super readable! Takes, maybe 10 min to skim through, a good afternoon coffee break.
Re:The decline in U.S. life expectancy is unlike anything se... by CydeWeys on Thursday October 24, 2019 @09:14PM (#21350871)
I'm surprised to see that homicide is actually increasing. I thought we were at all-time lows, but maybe not.

Interestingly, unintentional injuries are climbing even more than homicide (and because this is a log-scale graph, they're increasing by much more in absolute numbers). I assume this category includes drug overdoses, which is probably a good part of it, but it would also include deaths due to car crashes, which have been increasing. Cars are especially getting more dangerous to those outside of them in crashes, as cars are only safety-rated to protect those inside of them, not unfortunate pedestrians and cyclists who might get mashed up against the increasingly flat and high grilles of SUVs and trucks out there.