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Re:We Need to Dream Bigger Than Bike Lanes by brnt on Wednesday October 23, 2019 @08:43AM (#21333983)
Well, acceleration may be non-linear (bikes accelerate 0-10 faster than anything else, which is why sometimes in NL bikes may wait in front of cars before stoplights[1]). Top-speed and weight are also important factors in whether or not it would be smart to mix. However, this results in a matrix of separated lanes that is impractical ;)

Finding a good compromise (such as [1]) I think is a better idea. Lowering car speeds such that we can mix is a good one, as well as the introduction of speed limits on cycling paths [2], which would force certain bikes to slow down.

[1] https://gratistheorie.nl/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/opgeblaz... [2] https://www.fietsersbond.nl/nieuws/een-maximum-snelheid-op-h...

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Re:We Need to Dream Bigger Than Bike Lanes by gpm on Wednesday October 23, 2019 @09:42AM (#21334531)
> bikes accelerate 0-10 faster than anything else

As a cyclist, I don't believe this claim for a second.

When a car starts moving at the same time as me, it's faster than me from the start. Which makes sense, it has more horse power per unit mass.

Often I do start moving first, because I think I'm less likely to get right hooked if I do so. But that's a result of paying attention and having my for on the "accelerator" waiting to go. (Also maybe a tiny bit of lag for a car to get into gear, but that's not substantial).

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Re:We Need to Dream Bigger Than Bike Lanes by kalenx on Wednesday October 23, 2019 @12:06PM (#21335988)
The relevant metric is the torque at low (or 0) RPM, not the (horse) power.

I do agree that a good electric car may start faster than a cyclist, however.

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Re:We Need to Dream Bigger Than Bike Lanes by clarry on Thursday October 24, 2019 @04:12AM (#21342617)
Dunno, my ICE idles at 900 RPM and I tend to give it a bit of gas as I start going. I don't think my feet could put out anywhere near as much torque.
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