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Re:BlizzCon 2019 Protest “Full-Steam Ahead,” Say Organizers by erulabs on Monday October 21, 2019 @12:06PM (#21313873)
CVS stopped selling cigarettes and lost $2B revenue per year. After a few years, their stock is up. Is that seeking profit or doing what's right? Why does public good and public profit always have to be opposed? If being "woke" is profitable, we shouldn't discourage the good just because of potential profits. That would be like boycotting the Prius because Toyota is trying to make money off environmental concerns...
Re:BlizzCon 2019 Protest “Full-Steam Ahead,” Say Organizers by hugey010 on Monday October 21, 2019 @01:06PM (#21314639)
There are a few decent case studies around this move, and I still find it fascinating. They can say they did it for their values, but immediate revenue loss for values doesn't happen all that often. If it were truly for values, I'd expect alcohol to be removed from shelves as well.

In the early 2000's, CVS started treating patients at their MinuteClinics in the pharmacy. It became directly comparable to an actual doctors office, where cigarettes haven't been sold since the 1950's.

Anecdotally, and ironically, most of the people that are aware CVS made this move are inconvenienced smokers. I'd expect a huge continued marketing campaign around this endeavor in the US, but it hasn't been as strong as many other less impressive campaigns.

Re:BlizzCon 2019 Protest “Full-Steam Ahead,” Say Organizers by s1artibartfast on Monday October 21, 2019 @03:12PM (#21316058)
>If it were truly for values, I'd expect alcohol to be removed from shelves as well.

Not sure why everything has to be black and white. An individual or corporation can hold values that are against smoking but ok with alcohol.

Picking one and not the other does not invalidate the value.

>Anecdotally, and ironically, most of the people that are aware CVS made this move are inconvenienced smokers. I'd expect a huge continued marketing campaign around this endeavor in the US, but it hasn't been as strong as many other less impressive campaigns.

This is not surprising or ironic if the action was based more on ethics and less on PR/ virtue signaling.

Re:BlizzCon 2019 Protest “Full-Steam Ahead,” Say Organizers by birdyrooster on Monday October 21, 2019 @03:08PM (#21316011)
Is ending the sale of tobacco really that similar as ending the sale of alcohol in terms of values? What shared values do you see in ending the sale of both of these products?
Re:BlizzCon 2019 Protest “Full-Steam Ahead,” Say Organizers by nerfhammer on Monday October 21, 2019 @01:24PM (#21314841)
they sell alcohol at CVS?
Re:BlizzCon 2019 Protest “Full-Steam Ahead,” Say Organizers by filoleg on Monday October 21, 2019 @02:05PM (#21315317)
Most pharmacies in the US sell beer/wine. I don't think that is the case for hard liquor, though.
Re:BlizzCon 2019 Protest “Full-Steam Ahead,” Say Organizers by russh on Monday October 21, 2019 @02:25PM (#21315524)
RiteAid sells hard liquor in Washington state.
Re:BlizzCon 2019 Protest “Full-Steam Ahead,” Say Organizers by filoleg on Monday October 21, 2019 @02:46PM (#21315794)
I guess it makes sense it would be legal in states where the sale of hard liquor is allowed in places outside of dedicated liquor stores (and WA is one of them), I've just never really noticed it (never been to RiteAid in WA, though, only to Bartells/CVS/Walgreens). Thanks for the correction.
Re:BlizzCon 2019 Protest “Full-Steam Ahead,” Say Organizers by chipperyman573 on Monday October 21, 2019 @01:34PM (#21314936)
Wait, how did CSV help anything? People aren't going to stop buying cigarettes. They're addictive. People will just start paying double from a gas station.
Re:BlizzCon 2019 Protest “Full-Steam Ahead,” Say Organizers by lolinder on Monday October 21, 2019 @03:20PM (#21316130)
If we all waited until we could universally eliminate an unethical behavior before we stopped participating in it ourselves, the behavior would never die.

CVS has chosen to stop contributing to a problem, and the behavior of other businesses has no bearing on whether they did the right thing.

Re:BlizzCon 2019 Protest “Full-Steam Ahead,” Say Organizers by erulabs on Wednesday October 23, 2019 @01:43PM (#21336971)
Actually there is evidence to the contrary - Cigarette sales fell in the entire state where CVS had a significant market-share, and anti-smoking patch sales increased by 4% in the months following (src: https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucejapsen/2017/02/20/after-cv...)

Granted, it's hard to really know anything, but I'm not entirely sure what you're saying is true. There was probably at least a few people who just said screw it and stopped buying cigarettes because they wanted to quit and needed an impulse. Since their sales actually increased in the years following, and typically cigarettes have ancillary sales, I think at -least- a few people quit due to this move.