Re:FireEye confirms APT41 hacked TeamViewer, may have access...
by kuon on Sunday October 20, 2019 @10:16PM
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Speaking of TeamViewer, do you know a good open source alternative that I can self host (I mean self host the relay server for NAT traversal). That is as easy to use? Works on windows, mac and linux? It should also be installable in a few slick with no network configuration required.
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Re:FireEye confirms APT41 hacked TeamViewer, may have access...
by vsenko on Monday October 21, 2019 @02:18AM
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In case when remote control capabilities are not required, one could use jitsi (https://jitsi.org) video conferencing service which provides screen sharing capabilities (implementation depends on the web browser).
The main advantage is that there is no need to install any software neither on the remote machine nor on the local one.
There is a cloud hosted free version https://meet.jit.si which does not even require registration.
Re:FireEye confirms APT41 hacked TeamViewer, may have access...
by vmurthy on Monday October 21, 2019 @03:17AM
(#21309991)
For those of you who need to try it out real quick :
Jitsi Docker : https://github.com/jitsi/docker-jitsi-meet
Re:FireEye confirms APT41 hacked TeamViewer, may have access...
by jszymborski on Sunday October 20, 2019 @10:21PM
(#21308876)
I haven't tried this, but I imagine a situation where computer A uses SSH to connect to VPS B and computer C connect to VPS B using SSH. If both SSH connections port-forward a VNC port, you can use VNC.
Re:FireEye confirms APT41 hacked TeamViewer, may have access...
by kuon on Sunday October 20, 2019 @10:32PM
(#21308921)
Yes technically it could work, but I cannot ask the users to use SSH and configure VNC. The force of team viewer is that you download it, open it, and give number over the phone and it works.
Re:FireEye confirms APT41 hacked TeamViewer, may have access...
by EquallyJust on Sunday October 20, 2019 @10:45PM
(#21308959)
Chrome remote desktop works pretty well
Re:FireEye confirms APT41 hacked TeamViewer, may have access...
by dhekir on Monday October 21, 2019 @04:48AM
(#21310340)
But for remote control, it stops after every few minutes, asking the "controlled" user to click on a button to continue. Not so practical in a few situations.
Re:FireEye confirms APT41 hacked TeamViewer, may have access...
by pixl97 on Monday October 21, 2019 @07:25AM
(#21310977)
What do you mean? I've never had it do that.
Re:FireEye confirms APT41 hacked TeamViewer, may have access...
by dhekir on Monday October 21, 2019 @09:20AM
(#21311920)
It always happens for me when accessing a Linux machine remotely. I can't find a screenshot now, so the next time I do it, I'll take one. It seems to be a security measure, to prevent someone from sharing remote access and then forgetting about it afterwards, but it makes for terrible usability.
Re:FireEye confirms APT41 hacked TeamViewer, may have access...
by 4ad on Sunday October 20, 2019 @10:29PM
(#21308908)
This is what I use. In Unix it just works (TM). If you have an ssh client in windows, it also works with Remote Desktop via ssh port forwarding. In lieu of a (configured) ssh client on Windows, you can send the other person a self-contained Go program to do the job.
Re:FireEye confirms APT41 hacked TeamViewer, may have access...
by pvtmert on Monday October 21, 2019 @02:11AM
(#21309712)
you can also port forward from/to unix sockets
Re:FireEye confirms APT41 hacked TeamViewer, may have access...
by spullara on Sunday October 20, 2019 @10:44PM
(#21308954)
Not OSS but remotedesktop.google.com works well.
Re:FireEye confirms APT41 hacked TeamViewer, may have access...
by philliphaydon on Monday October 21, 2019 @12:56AM
(#21309451)
It sucks for multi monitor setups though, keyboard events, defocuses for no reason, unlocks the computer you rdp into, doesn't support scaling monitors.
Re:FireEye confirms APT41 hacked TeamViewer, may have access...
by simcop2387 on Sunday October 20, 2019 @11:07PM
(#21309035)
I don't know how smooth it is, since I haven't tried it myself yet, but apparently Nextcloud talk can do it. I think it needs a browser extension but that might not be nearly as much of an imposition as vnc + ssh. It's also pretty easy to self host on a vps or other server of your own.
Re:FireEye confirms APT41 hacked TeamViewer, may have access...
by tmikaeld on Monday October 21, 2019 @12:43AM
(#21309406)
https://www.meshcommander.com/meshcentral2
Seems to do this (currently in beta)
Re:FireEye confirms APT41 hacked TeamViewer, may have access...
by zelo on Monday October 21, 2019 @03:23AM
(#21310011)
I use nomachine behind vpn and it works much smoother than teamviewer. It's multiplatform and free for personal use.
Re:FireEye confirms APT41 hacked TeamViewer, may have access...
by BiteCode_dev on Sunday October 20, 2019 @10:59PM
(#21309006)
In the same boat, and I have heard good things about https://www.dwservice.net/fr/home.html, but I haven't tried it myself yet.
Re:FireEye confirms APT41 hacked TeamViewer, may have access...
by weitzj on Monday October 21, 2019 @01:14AM
(#21309506)
zerotier.com is exactly this. I am still amazed how easy this is. (Big fanboy)
Re:FireEye confirms APT41 hacked TeamViewer, may have access...
by twooclock on Monday October 21, 2019 @02:13AM
(#21309718)
Not opensource but works good: https://www.cloudberrylab.com/remote-assistant.aspx
Re:FireEye confirms APT41 hacked TeamViewer, may have access...
by mehrdadn on Sunday October 20, 2019 @10:38PM
(#21308937)
Anybody know of a UDP-based alternative? VNC is TCP.
Re:FireEye confirms APT41 hacked TeamViewer, may have access...
by gruez on Sunday October 20, 2019 @10:46PM
(#21308962)
Is there a reason why you need UDP specifically?
Re:FireEye confirms APT41 hacked TeamViewer, may have access...
by mehrdadn on Sunday October 20, 2019 @10:48PM
(#21308966)
It's far smoother.
Re:FireEye confirms APT41 hacked TeamViewer, may have access...
by gruez on Sunday October 20, 2019 @11:16PM
(#21309071)
What protocol do you notice this with? In my experience, Microsoft RDP (the only protocol I know with configurable udp and tcp) with and without udp is imperceptible during typical use (eg. server administration).
Re:FireEye confirms APT41 hacked TeamViewer, may have access...
by mehrdadn on Sunday October 20, 2019 @11:23PM
(#21309094)
With RDP. It's not imperceptible for me. I don't just use RDP for server administration.
Re:FireEye confirms APT41 hacked TeamViewer, may have access...
by xbryanx on Sunday October 20, 2019 @10:26PM
(#21308894)
I've been looking at a combination of SoftEther (for dynamic IPs) and Guacamole to replace TeamViewer, ConnectWise, etc.
Re:FireEye confirms APT41 hacked TeamViewer, may have access...
by DrPhish on Sunday October 20, 2019 @11:45PM
(#21309197)
I also use Guacamole for remote employee/vendor access (with public IPs hidden behind a proxy like an F5 or at least SSL+HTTP Simple Auth), but I haven't ever tried to configure it for remote support session sharing type stuff.
Is that how you're using it? If so, how is it set up?