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Re:A Dumb TV for Consumers by RenRav on Sunday October 20, 2019 @10:19AM (#21304290)
>We removed everything that doesn't add to a simple experience; making it ultra-slim, pure and compatible with your other gadgets.

>The menu and remote has been replaced with the Iron Cast App, where your can create profiles and settings for any mood and atmosphere. You can choose between our carefully constructed profiles or simply create your own.

These two things seem at odds, the first thing everyone does is shovel in their own app.

It's also hard to consider dumb when it requires a smartphone to even use.

Re:A Dumb TV for Consumers by Youden on Sunday October 20, 2019 @10:30AM (#21304367)
> It's also hard to consider dumb when it requires a smartphone to even use.

I think that in reality you don't even need to use the app. The TV should be powered on/off by your AV receiver or Apple TV or whatnot using HDMI-CEC.

Re:A Dumb TV for Consumers by recursive on Sunday October 20, 2019 @11:34AM (#21304752)
Here I am, using an old fashioned physical button.
Re:A Dumb TV for Consumers by Youden on Monday October 21, 2019 @02:49PM (#21315823)
You still do that this way, it's just that your physical button will be for the device plugged into it rather than the TV itself. Instead of turning on the TV with a physical button, you'll turn on your Chromecast, Apple TV, Roku, Blu-Ray player or whatever you have plugged in. That device will then turn on the TV using HDMI.
Re:A Dumb TV for Consumers by ScottFree on Sunday October 20, 2019 @11:58AM (#21304928)
The way it should be. I once bought a computer monitor with capacitive "buttons." I'll never make that mistake again.
Re:A Dumb TV for Consumers by jordanbeiber on Sunday October 20, 2019 @12:20PM (#21305072)
Again, this remote app only lets you control color profiles. Not sure how often you do that, but I never touch those settings after initial calibration. It's been 10 years with my current plasma.
Re:A Dumb TV for Consumers by kop316 on Sunday October 20, 2019 @10:48AM (#21304489)
Which would be fine, that is just not obvious in the site.

It'd also be nice if it was compatible with universal remotes.

Re:A Dumb TV for Consumers by jordanbeiber on Sunday October 20, 2019 @11:58AM (#21304931)
I guess we're a specific type of user that this screen is trying to target. Myself and several people I know have been looking for something like this for years. The only consumer type products like this right now are projectors, and they certainly are not suitable everywhere. Even though the more recent developments in ultra short throw laser projectors have my interest piqued.
Re:A Dumb TV for Consumers by cptskippy on Sunday October 20, 2019 @11:13AM (#21304638)
How do I adjust contrast or fps? The App...
Re:A Dumb TV for Consumers by mchristen on Sunday October 20, 2019 @11:18AM (#21304664)
I use the app for my Yamaha receiver far more than I use the remote. I'm already browsing for content to watch on my phone...

Aside from the 'is the app needed' debate, this TV is almost perfect for me. I hope there are plans for an HDR or extended gamut display too.

Re:A Dumb TV for Consumers by jordanbeiber on Sunday October 20, 2019 @10:30AM (#21304364)
Yes, a monitor - a product that at 45”+ is missing for consumers and your only option is commercial screens.

Remotes - I find that I want one simple remote for 90% of the time. Having vendor specific remote apps in my phone is vastly better than having three of four separates on the rare occasions I need to tweak something. I prefer the apple remote to harmonys et al.

Re:A Dumb TV for Consumers by noja on Sunday October 20, 2019 @11:40AM (#21304797)
> vastly better

Until three years later when the app isn't being updated anymore, or the vendor removed all the functionality you used (hello Sonos)

Re:A Dumb TV for Consumers by jordanbeiber on Sunday October 20, 2019 @11:48AM (#21304860)
Well, if you look at the features this specific remote app is designed to control, what you describe is "vendor out of business". Sure, that is a risk, as always.

Ideally vendors would open source code like this. Not sure why they so seldom do. Some cultural corporate thing I guess. This is something we as consumers are always vulnerable to, the more "smarts" are built in to products.

Re:A Dumb TV for Consumers by jpindar on Sunday October 20, 2019 @08:19PM (#21308285)
The site refers to the app as "Iron Cast App (open-source)" but I wasn't able to find the source code.
Re:A Dumb TV for Consumers by devicetray0 on Sunday October 20, 2019 @08:26PM (#21308321)
That's probably because it's a kickstarter
Re:A Dumb TV for Consumers by noja on Sunday October 20, 2019 @03:02PM (#21306293)
We need a standard.
Re:A Dumb TV for Consumers by jogjayr on Sunday October 20, 2019 @11:58AM (#21304930)
> a monitor - a product that at 45”+ is missing for consumers and your only option is commercial screens.

Here you go: https://www.bestbuy.com/site/insignia-55-class-led-1080p-hdt...

Re:A Dumb TV for Consumers by jordanbeiber on Sunday October 20, 2019 @12:01PM (#21304950)
Cool, but:

- only 1080p, which might still be fine

- Insignia is exclusive to the US and north American market.

Re:A Dumb TV for Consumers by corodra on Sunday October 20, 2019 @10:29AM (#21304357)
>It's also hard to consider dumb when it requires a smartphone to even use.

RIGHT?!? I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.

Re:A Dumb TV for Consumers by muddi900 on Sunday October 20, 2019 @09:48PM (#21308743)
I was at friend's place, and the TV was on while we were playing dominoes. The friend couldn't find tge remote and tried turning it off via the app.

He had to wait for the ad to finish to do that. SmartTVs are bullshit

Re:A Dumb TV for Consumers by seeker61 on Monday October 21, 2019 @12:20PM (#21314059)
Unplug the (provide an expletive of your choice here)
Re:A Dumb TV for Consumers by m463 on Sunday October 20, 2019 @08:44PM (#21308419)
> The menu and remote has been replaced with the Iron Cast App (open-source),

open-source

there might be hope. It is not mentioned how the app would connect. It could be something local like bluetooth, or something more pernicious like wifi or ethernet over hdmi.

Who knows, it it might solve the problem current TVs have with spotty hardware control via "standards" like HDMI-CEC.