Re:Oracle Says Co-CEO Mark Hurd Has Died
by herodotus on Friday October 18, 2019 @12:37PM
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I know this is slightly off-topic, but I find this headline to be extremely strange. Why not "Oracle Co-CEO Mark Hurd has Died"? Surely the news is his death, not the announcement?
Re:Oracle Says Co-CEO Mark Hurd Has Died
by jpadkins on Friday October 18, 2019 @12:40PM
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good journalistic practice is to not report something as fact until it is independently verified.
So in the online world with a rush to push the article, the headline has to reflect what they actually know ('oracle reported'). They will probably update the headline once they get confirmation.
Re:Oracle Says Co-CEO Mark Hurd Has Died
by netsharc on Friday October 18, 2019 @12:56PM
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A lot of times headlines use quotes to indicate that someone other than than the news org said it. But I wonder how many readers are barely literate and don't realize this.
Re:Oracle Says Co-CEO Mark Hurd Has Died
by pbhjpbhj on Friday October 18, 2019 @01:01PM
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I find that worse, it suggests something is known definitely to have happened but it's being described in an unusual way. In any case I'm not sure this is the time for such conversations.
Re:Oracle Says Co-CEO Mark Hurd Has Died
by jszymborski on Friday October 18, 2019 @12:42PM
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Agreed, I had the same immediate reaction. Almost as if they were making an implicit claim that Oracle might have a reason for claiming he has died when he might not have.
But ultimately, I think this is just journalist practice when reporting things as they happen. Until things are more certain, it's more prudent to report the announcement than the event.
Re:Oracle Says Co-CEO Mark Hurd Has Died
by papermachete on Friday October 18, 2019 @12:51PM
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It's against the rules, by the way. They clearly state OP must provide a workaround to the paywall.
Of course, outline.com doesn't support wsj, big surprise.
Re:Oracle Says Co-CEO Mark Hurd Has Died
by tptacek on Friday October 18, 2019 @12:54PM
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It's obviously not against the rules, as you can see from the search bar of 'dang comments on WSJ stories. If you can find a better story, it can get swapped in for this one; suggest it. Otherwise: complaining about paywalls actually is against the rules.
Re:Oracle Says Co-CEO Mark Hurd Has Died
by papermachete on Friday October 18, 2019 @03:11PM
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I'm not obliged to provide a better story. I have the right to request a workaround. It seems OP must not have posted a paywalled article without workarounds in the first place.
Re:Oracle Says Co-CEO Mark Hurd Has Died
by tptacek on Friday October 18, 2019 @03:18PM
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The rule is that paywalled stories are OK as long as a workaround exists, not that the submitter is obliged to provide one. Meanwhile, complaints about paywalls are off-topic on HN. You don't have to take my word for it; just read Dan's comments.
In this case the headline could be;
Orace Co-CEO Mark Hurd 'has died'
Oracle: Co-CEO Mark Hurd has died.
Oracle: "Co-Ceo Mark Hurd Has Died"
Why?
“The hostages ‘succumb to an accident’”
But ultimately, I think this is just journalist practice when reporting things as they happen. Until things are more certain, it's more prudent to report the announcement than the event.