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Re:California’s new law bans schools from starting before 8am by rdlecler1 on Wednesday October 16, 2019 @02:04AM (#21267506)
There’s a 20:1 to 30:1 ratio so are you suggesting it’s better for 20-30 working, single parent families? Maybe the government should pay teachers more and pay less on defense and we’d have a more productive society.
Re:California’s new law bans schools from starting before 8am by cobookman on Wednesday October 16, 2019 @04:38AM (#21268288)
I've read multiple studies that the biggest influence in a kids success in school is their parents involvement.

Don't make the assumption that throwing more money at teachers will improve our schools. Zuckerberg tried that with little success, as have many before him.

I'd rather a focus on ensuring every kid has a healthy meal at the table. A support group who's invested in tbe individual kids success. A family that encourages and supports during the best and worst of times.

Arguably the "advantage" well to-do middle class families get.

Re:California’s new law bans schools from starting before 8am by emiliobumachar on Wednesday October 16, 2019 @01:37PM (#21273046)
I don't doubt your main point, but your main example does not support it. How much of Zuckerberg's money trickled down all the way to teachers? From what I remember seeing reported, most of it went to consulting and administration.
Re:California’s new law bans schools from starting before 8am by watwut on Wednesday October 16, 2019 @04:17PM (#21275023)
Parental involvement is not the same thing as "made up obstacles so that parents have hard time in work or additional pointless chores". It is not the same as "mom got forced toward different work track as otherwise kid is in trouble in school".

Oddly, parents ability to work is actually beneficial towards kids ability to eat regularly and healthy. Especially for poor famillies.

Re:California’s new law bans schools from starting before 8am by streb-lo on Wednesday October 16, 2019 @10:12AM (#21270492)
A quick peruse of Google scholar’s highly cited journal articles suggests it’s not as clear cut as you suggest:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S00472...

Re:California’s new law bans schools from starting before 8am by archi42 on Wednesday October 16, 2019 @03:25AM (#21267935)
In an ideal world, routing money from defence anywhere makes for a more productive society (except maybe black jack and hookers - and I am not even sure on that).

Of course investing into the future (kids and environment) has the biggest long-term impact and should be top priority.

Re:California’s new law bans schools from starting before 8am by pentae on Wednesday October 16, 2019 @04:28AM (#21268238)
I think lately western governments (other than the obvious example) have figured out that it's a much better short term play to simply allow immigration to boost the economy rather than longer-than-their-term ideas like education.
Re:California’s new law bans schools from starting before 8am by 0xcafecafe on Wednesday October 16, 2019 @08:38AM (#21269685)
I doubt that is true in the current xenophobic administration.
Re:California’s new law bans schools from starting before 8am by mcv on Wednesday October 16, 2019 @07:21AM (#21269167)
How about those parents who need it, just take their kids to pre-school care, so everybody else can have a normal night's sleep?
Re:California’s new law bans schools from starting before 8am by raducu on Wednesday October 16, 2019 @06:27AM (#21268872)
Maybe people could vote for politicians that prioritize education over defense?