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Re:China's New Cybersecurity Program: No Place to Hide by contingencies on Monday October 14, 2019 @07:38AM (#21247179)
This article reads as alarmism from an actor with interest in projecting FUD. China broadly has the same effective policy as most governments: requiring access to be given when legally demanded. This is already the case and has been the case for a long time. The theoretical legal requirement and the practical reality of enforcement differ, such that everyone is forced to operate in a grey area. Such a situation is normal and expected in China. Should the authorities want something, they come and tell you. Exactly the same as the west.
Re:China's New Cybersecurity Program: No Place to Hide by decoyworker on Monday October 14, 2019 @07:55AM (#21247287)
>legally demanded

Meaning whenever the hell they feel like it. From the outside looking in, one problem seems to be a lack of a legitimate legal framework. Is there truly law in China? In the US at least, companies can throw out illegitimate requests for information. Can you tell the Chinese government, "no" for any reason? Citizens in western Democracies regularly sue their own government and win.

This, "everyone does it" defense is bullshit.

Re:China's New Cybersecurity Program: No Place to Hide by joosters on Monday October 14, 2019 @07:47AM (#21247236)
Yes, the article is not very well written, in that it blends factual statements about the new laws together with their own opinions,

e.g. 'For that reason, the Chinese Cybersecurity Bureau does not plan to politely make a formal request for the information. The fundamental premise of the new cybersecurity systems is that the government will use its control of communications to simply take the information without discussing the matter with the user.'

Does the author have some magical view into the Chinese Cybersecurity Bureau? Is he making this broad statement based upon something that the CSB has said? Or is it just his viewpoint?

Much more likely is, as you state, when the government wants something, they are going to come along and demand it. And if you want to keep doing business in China, you will have to provide that data.

This, while still a worrying state of affairs, is a far different scenario from 'all crypto is banned!' espoused by the writer.

Re:China's New Cybersecurity Program: No Place to Hide by Thrwtz on Monday October 14, 2019 @08:08AM (#21247372)
Refer to the follow up blog post where he goes into detail, including the actual law if you can read Chinese.
Re:China's New Cybersecurity Program: No Place to Hide by joosters on Monday October 14, 2019 @08:59AM (#21247745)
Perhaps you could quote the relevant part that shows that this is more than just an opinion of the writer?

Given that it is a fundamental theme of the original article (encryption effectively banned), why doesn't the author provide this information in the very same article?

Re:China's New Cybersecurity Program: No Place to Hide by keiferski on Monday October 14, 2019 @07:47AM (#21247232)
"Because things are complicated both in China and in the West, ergo they are equivalent."
Re:China's New Cybersecurity Program: No Place to Hide by contingencies on Monday October 14, 2019 @07:54AM (#21247276)
s/they are equivalent/taking an alarmist tone is nonsensical/