Re:Larry Wall has approved renaming Perl 6 to Raku
by dnautics on Friday October 11, 2019 @06:26PM
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Is a 100ms startup time really a big deal for something that is either going to be manually triggered or cronjobbed and expected to take on the order of minutes?
Re:Larry Wall has approved renaming Perl 6 to Raku
by Myrmornis on Friday October 11, 2019 @07:28PM
(#21229332)
Those sorts of startup times discourage writing command-line tools (e.g. composable text processing things one might join with pipes).
Re:Larry Wall has approved renaming Perl 6 to Raku
by cutler on Saturday October 12, 2019 @12:29AM
(#21230690)
Ruby scripting has occupied the sysadmin space for over a decade yet on my 2013 Macbook Pro the latest Ruby 2.6.5 takes around 250ms to start. That's a mere 1/4 of a second. Sure, Python, Perl and PHP have shorter startup times but surely this is a non-problem?
Re:Larry Wall has approved renaming Perl 6 to Raku
by Myrmornis on Sunday October 13, 2019 @02:09PM
(#21241815)
No, things like sort, grep, uniq, cut, wc, cat, awk, sed, tr, etc etc. You wouldn't want them to take 1/4 second to start up.
Re:Larry Wall has approved renaming Perl 6 to Raku
by emmelaich on Saturday October 12, 2019 @01:44AM
(#21230935)
Crystal's startup time is not great though. 700ms vs 100ms for ruby.
Compared with
time crystal eval <<<"puts 1"
time ruby <<<"puts 1"
Re:Larry Wall has approved renaming Perl 6 to Raku
by bhaak on Saturday October 12, 2019 @02:44AM
(#21231104)
You know that you are timing the compiler and not the compiled program here?
Rather try "echo 'puts 1' > puts.cr && crystal build puts.cr && time ./puts"
BTW, you can dramatically decrease the cold startup times of ruby if you call it with the options '--disable-gems --disable-rubyopt' if that's an option to you. For many scripts it certainly is.
But even on a 8 years old machine with spinning rust, after the ruby stuff is cached in the OS filesystem cache, my startup time are smaller than 10ms.
Elixir had a long startup time for one-off scripts in my experience, but Elixir’s syntax is still one of my favorites for scripting.