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Re:Why Enterprise Software Sucks by TeMPOraL on Friday October 11, 2019 @03:49PM (#21227784)
Related, my co-worker and I have evaluated a dozen different tools big and small, including Jira and that Jetbrains thing. And we still can't find a system that would meet our needs, which I think are simple:

- Model tasks as DAGs, not as lists. I.e. I want to work with a dependency graph (JetBrains thing sort of can do that with task relationships, but the UI isn't oriented towards exploiting it).

- If that's too much to ask, at least allow to nest arbitrary amount of subtasks, and not just one (like Jira and almost everyone else).

- Fast.

- Proper keyboard shortcuts (again, JetBrains is good at it, but it's missing some crucial shortcuts and UI concepts, like "add a subtask to current task" and "go back to parent task").

- Allow estimating how long the task will take, without having to specify when it'll start.

- Render a proper GAANT chart and do a critical path analysis.

I really think I'm not asking for much, and yet nothing I've seen can do it. Most Jira-like systems try hard to be "agile", which means sacrificing features and utility to chase misguided ideological purity (like the whole "no subtask" thing).

Seriously, if Emacs had a first-class support for real-time collaboration, Org Mode would be vastly better than all task management offerings on the market.

Re:Why Enterprise Software Sucks by xyst on Friday October 11, 2019 @10:34PM (#21230248)
What's the point of nested subtasks? I hate creating subtasks as it is, but now I have to create this nasty tree of sub-subtasks?

Almost seems like "micro-tasks" at this point.

Re:Why Enterprise Software Sucks by TeMPOraL on Saturday October 12, 2019 @02:40AM (#21231086)
Breaking down work into steps. Not all top-level tasks are truly of equal size.

Micro tasks are good.