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Re:Tim Cook’s Company-Wide Email on Hkmap.live Doesn’t Add Up by shakna on Thursday October 10, 2019 @09:28PM (#21220772)
Absolutely. The problem with Apple's, and many other companies, early response policies is it depends on the source of truth, such as the police, not being complicit.

If they always wait for a court order, PR disasters happen, and polticians dredge up 'think of the children' arguments.

If they don't wait for an order they can become part of the machinery of ill-intentioned polticial or commercial forces.

Damned if they do, damned if they don't.

However, I still think waiting for an order, especially in tense environments, is the right moral choice. I concede it probably isn't the right economic choice a lot of the time.

Re:Tim Cook’s Company-Wide Email on Hkmap.live Doesn’t Add Up by truth0seeker on Friday October 11, 2019 @03:31AM (#21222305)
I totally agree. But there is a point you may not aware.

Government, law enforcement and court are not separated in China, they all belonging to the same central government. So if you really want a court order, they’ll issue one quickly.

That’s the tricky situation. Companies must obey local laws, but local laws are built on behalf of central government, and court exists for protecting central government.

Re:Tim Cook’s Company-Wide Email on Hkmap.live Doesn’t Add Up by Faark on Friday October 11, 2019 @04:31AM (#21222524)
No problem with that. I presume gp focused on a court order since that's the way it works in his local culture. The important part is Apple not acting as their own arbitrator.

If the order came from the HK gov, citizens know who is responsible for it and can act accordingly. And I'd expect this to be the reason Apple received pressure to remove it "by themselves".

Re:Tim Cook’s Company-Wide Email on Hkmap.live Doesn’t Add Up by shakna on Friday October 11, 2019 @04:38AM (#21222567)
That's fine, but Apple acted without one being issued. Which made them the arbiter, rather than the Chinese officials.