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Re:Scientific Papers That Were Rejected Before Going on to W... by dagw on Thursday October 10, 2019 @05:12AM (#21212408)
Going through the reasons for these rejections, most seem perfectly reasonable, and few are complete rejections.

One was rejected simply because that journal had too large a backlog to handle new submissions. One journal didn't like the authors title and published it after the author agreed to change the title. There are a couple of cases where a journal said the topic wasn't really relevant to their journal, and the work then went on to get published in more relevant journal. In one case they said we like your work and think you're on to something, but your conclusion is too strongly worded given the data you presented.

In no case did the journal or reviewer state that they thought the paper or research was straight up wrong.

Re:Scientific Papers That Were Rejected Before Going on to W... by cwingrav on Thursday October 10, 2019 @05:47AM (#21212593)
Very true. I think many that are not in the scientific community do not understand that almost all papers in top journals are given "revise and resubmit" status, so people can fix small to large issues before being reviewed again. This process makes the paper more understandable, not just to the reviewers, but to the community at large. It is not a perfect process, but definitely one that has improved writings as a whole.
Re:Scientific Papers That Were Rejected Before Going on to W... by etrautmann on Thursday October 10, 2019 @06:48AM (#21212937)
I’ve never heard of a paper that was accepted without revisions after peer review. There’s always some (thoigh frequently many) requested changes, but never once have I seen three reviewers all sign off without having a single suggestion.
Re:Scientific Papers That Were Rejected Before Going on to W... by ghaff on Thursday October 10, 2019 @09:08AM (#21213943)
It seems almost inherent to the process. I don't read or write journal articles. But I'm sometimes asked to be a reviewer on a book proposal and I fairly frequently review docs of various types at work.

If I'm just one peripheral person on a long list I might read quickly through and say "Looks fine to me." But if I'm really reviewing something, I almost feel that I'm expected to at least find some nit-picks--as well as anything really substantial of course. It's pretty rare that I will be "No comments" on a first-pass review.

Re:Scientific Papers That Were Rejected Before Going on to W... by JoeAltmaier on Thursday October 10, 2019 @09:54AM (#21214484)
The insulin-antigen one did claim it was not proven true. Is that close enough to 'wrong'?
Re:Scientific Papers That Were Rejected Before Going on to W... by dagw on Thursday October 10, 2019 @10:05AM (#21214623)
I can't really judge, but by the sounds of it the paper didn't provide enough evidence to prove that it was true, or at least didn't make it obvious that it was true. They even admit that the data presented was "suggestive" that it might be true.

This is something you see all the time. Someone does a limited experiment, gets the result they where hoping for, and then get super excited and carried away and claim that their entire thesis has been proven true. I've rejected (or rather sent back for extensive revision) papers myself based on this, even when my gut feeling was that their conclusion was probably correct. Often the paper comes back with a more moderated conclusion and then gets published without a problem.