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Re:Adobe deactivates all Venezuelan accounts by noobermin on Monday October 07, 2019 @04:39PM (#21185708)
Along with the free software movement, I would be here with a movement that allows us to return to self-hosted, native and peer-to-peer services. There seem to be a smattering of them out there but they are disorganized and not united under one banner like FOSS is.
Re:Adobe deactivates all Venezuelan accounts by lallysingh on Monday October 07, 2019 @04:50PM (#21185816)
Without building and running your own full-blown PC at home, I think the best option is a consumer NAS. Which are great; I love mine.

But they don't seem to advertise and very few people know it's a really good option (with phone apps to replace the cloud ones, even).

Re:Adobe deactivates all Venezuelan accounts by megous on Monday October 07, 2019 @05:59PM (#21186430)
It's possible to run server software on HW that costs $10-$15 + a cost of a SD card ($6 for 32GB). Power bill is negligible and there's no noise.

It's very cheap to run self-hosted these days even on your own HW. 1GB/20GB VMs cost $1-$2 per month.

Really, this should be an age of self-hosted if the cost was ever a limit.

Re:Adobe deactivates all Venezuelan accounts by noobermin on Monday October 07, 2019 @06:38PM (#21186753)
Been wanting to start try nextcloudpi[0] but I need the time to learn and set it up (even if it's an hour of reading). My point is for someone not as willing to learn as me, it's at least harder than signing up for OneDrive, Dropbox, etc.

[0] https://ownyourbits.com/nextcloudpi/

Re:Adobe deactivates all Venezuelan accounts by benhurmarcel on Tuesday October 08, 2019 @03:34AM (#21189686)
I've been thinking of getting a Nextcloud instance at Hetzner maybe. It's fairly easy, and managed.
Re:Adobe deactivates all Venezuelan accounts by lallysingh on Monday October 07, 2019 @08:33PM (#21187490)
It's the software support and maintenance that's hard. Replacement apps and configuration. Especially if you want to do email...
Re:Adobe deactivates all Venezuelan accounts by megous on Monday October 07, 2019 @09:09PM (#21187694)
You can't really do e-mail from home anyway, unless you get some tunnel to a fixed IP address that can build trust.

But it's possible to run all kinds of other stuff, if you know how. All kinds of scratch your itch apps, monitoring, backup, small web apps, file sharing, audio server, seedbox, databases, etc. Stuff you'd not find a service for, because it violates copyright when it's not done for personal use, etc.

It's especially useful if there are multiple people in the household.

Most of what you list are or can be one-time costs. And most of it can be automated in a run-a-script, check for errors and forget about it in 1 minute, or deal with some failure in 15minutes.

The main benefit of running your own is that there are almost no ongoing costs. Lot's of the SaaS prices are really overblown, so running your own is appealing there.

And people spend time and stress on dealing with SaaS issues too from time to time, so it's not like you just pay and use without any additional costs.

It just needs a serious consideration.

Also running your own can be fun/fulfilling in its own way, because you now have more control and you're allowed more creativity. For some people that may ba a benefit too.

Re:Adobe deactivates all Venezuelan accounts by lallysingh on Monday October 07, 2019 @10:25PM (#21188067)
I picked up a Synology, it has replacement apps for photos (the big one) and others. Super easy, and it'll run docker images.
Re:Adobe deactivates all Venezuelan accounts by Shaddox on Wednesday October 09, 2019 @05:34AM (#21201519)
Aren't consumer NAS expensive?
Re:Adobe deactivates all Venezuelan accounts by lallysingh on Wednesday October 09, 2019 @08:12AM (#21202396)
Less than a cheapish laptop, generally. More depending on storage and CPU/ram.
Re:Adobe deactivates all Venezuelan accounts by tomphoolery on Monday October 07, 2019 @05:44PM (#21186270)
The "Fediverse" is close, but I think we need to go a step further and build a community of self-hosted, peer-to-peer services. While federation is a great first step, it still requires _someone_ to manage a server of N users...
Re:Adobe deactivates all Venezuelan accounts by neiman on Monday October 07, 2019 @06:46PM (#21186807)
The problem with pure peer-to-peer, is privacy. While now only one server knows what you do, in a peer-to-peer it changes to almost everyone who are connected.

You can can indeed improve privacy, but it normally means giving up speed (like Tor).

Additionally, there are other issues of p2p as a main solution. For example, phone battery or often being blocked in routers of public spaces etc.

I think that a mix between Fediverse and P2P would be nice.

A power user can choose to be a node, knowing the price. But the common user would use some server/service to access it. But those must be planned such that switching is easy.