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Re:The pointlessness of daily standups by solidasparagus on Monday October 07, 2019 @05:57AM (#21179080)
I'm curious, why were they draining?
Re:The pointlessness of daily standups by vfc1 on Monday October 07, 2019 @07:16AM (#21179507)
Because you have to think upfront what are you going to say. You might me interrogated in front of everyone else about something that you are doing, and will have to come up with an answer on the spot.

This is obviously stressful, and psychologically pressures you to try to finish the task ASAP the day before, so that you can come up to the meeting and just say its done.

Which is the real actual benefit of the standup, and why managers keep doing it, despite they are obviously not needed and in most cases a waste of time.

The standup keeps everyone on their heels and feeling like their every breath is monitored and accounted for.

Re:The pointlessness of daily standups by solidasparagus on Monday October 07, 2019 @07:31AM (#21179582)
If you are being interrogated to the extent that you have to plan what you are going to say, the standup is being run poorly IMO.
Re:The pointlessness of daily standups by vfc1 on Monday October 07, 2019 @07:40AM (#21179637)
Everyone has to spend at least some time thinking ahead of time what they are going to say, and you probably do too.

Its the perception of yourself and your work from the eyes of the group that is at stake here, it's important and most people usually don't just improvise it.

Many times people have notes of what they want to say, which involves preparation, attention and energy put into it that would better be directed elsewhere.

Re:The pointlessness of daily standups by mcv on Monday October 07, 2019 @07:50AM (#21179697)
I don't. Often it's "What was I working on again? Oh yeah, that one issue. And I reviewed some code. The thing I'm working on I hope to finish today, maybe tomorrow. That's it. Oh wait, I also deployed a thing."

It requires very little thought.

Re:The pointlessness of daily standups by solidasparagus on Monday October 07, 2019 @07:49AM (#21179694)
I don't know, on a healthy team you should feel very comfortable giving an update on your work without having to prepare.

I've prepared for standup when I was new to a team, but it should pretty quickly get to the point where you don't need that. At least for my experiences, it's not like standup is a major factor in how teammates think of you - that comes from working together with people.

Re:The pointlessness of daily standups by matwood on Monday October 07, 2019 @08:39AM (#21180049)
> Its the perception of yourself and your work from the eyes of the group that is at stake here

If your teams have so little trust in each other that you have to do all this preparation for a standup, then there are already much larger issues.

Re:The pointlessness of daily standups by whateveracct on Monday October 07, 2019 @11:32AM (#21182047)
That's what happens when the PM (or other deadline-obsessed entity) is in charge though.
Re:The pointlessness of daily standups by celticmusic on Monday October 07, 2019 @10:29AM (#21181235)
because they're unnecessary. I legitimately lose an hour a day due to them. I've started coming in late so I slide immediately into the daily standup because otherwise I fart around for the first 30-45 minutes until the standup starts.

There's just no deep work that can be done during that time, and that's every day.

Re:The pointlessness of daily standups by solidasparagus on Monday October 07, 2019 @10:43AM (#21181422)
I agree, that happens and it's really bad. When to hold standup is definitely an important question. I like first thing when people get in or two hours after everyone gets in.