Re:Bitwarden: Free, open-source password manager
by georgyo on Sunday October 06, 2019 @08:49PM
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I would argue that pass isn't that secure other than when your computer is off.
Namely that it requires copy and pasting. Any program on your computer can read your clipboard.
And for a normal user who are more vulnerable to phishing, there isn't automatic domain checking. It would be their normal work flow to copy a password into a malicious site.
Re:Bitwarden: Free, open-source password manager
by sdan on Sunday October 06, 2019 @10:19PM
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If you install Browserpass for Chrome (there's an alternate for Firefox as well) all you need to do is type in your keyboard command and it'll automatically fill out your info for you on the website.
Meaning: Suppose you go to gooogle.com instead of google.com, the extension won't fill out info because it doesn't recognize you having an user/pass for gooogle.com
Re:Bitwarden: Free, open-source password manager
by judge2020 on Monday October 07, 2019 @12:45AM
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This is a basic feature of every password manager I've ever used.
Re:Bitwarden: Free, open-source password manager
by lozf on Monday October 07, 2019 @07:33AM
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Yes, he's just making the point to the GP, that actually copy and paste is not a requirement to use pass.
Re:Bitwarden: Free, open-source password manager
by libeclipse on Monday October 07, 2019 @06:42AM
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Dude if your clipboard is untrusted in your threat model then you have bigger problems. Any program that is reading your clipboard could also be logging your keys, watching your webcam, recording your screen, or exfiltrating your files.
Have a reasonable security model please
Re:Bitwarden: Free, open-source password manager
by georgyo on Monday October 07, 2019 @07:00AM
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The clipboard is extra vulnerable. It requires no privileges at all to read. Up until very recently, JavaScript in your browser could pull content directly out of your clipboard.
Even beyond that, copy and pasting is training users to copy and paste. This is an even bigger threat imho. There is no layer of extra validation.
Re:Bitwarden: Free, open-source password manager
by Thorrez on Sunday October 06, 2019 @09:23PM
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Can't any program on your computer also just keylog your master password and get your whole database? That's worse than getting individual passwords from the clipboard.
Re:Bitwarden: Free, open-source password manager
by singlow on Sunday October 06, 2019 @10:54PM
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Only a program with elevated priveleges can record keystrokes when not focused. Unpriveleged programs can see the clipboard data much more freely.
Re:Bitwarden: Free, open-source password manager
by Thorrez on Sunday October 06, 2019 @11:36PM
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Hmm, what if a malicious program modifies your PATH (or creates a bash alias) so that whatever command you use before you enter your master password is now replaced with a backdoored one?
Re:Bitwarden: Free, open-source password manager
by aorth on Monday October 07, 2019 @01:19AM
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You should specify the full path to the real "pass" when you configure the browser extension. This is a very common problem—with a known solution—in shell scripts since forever.
Re:Bitwarden: Free, open-source password manager
by Thorrez on Monday October 07, 2019 @03:07AM
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Is the browser extension configuration owned by root? I thought that would be owned by your user. So the malware could modify that configuration.
Re:Bitwarden: Free, open-source password manager
by ngrilly on Monday October 07, 2019 @03:16AM
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> It's encrypted with your keys (which I didn't see on Bitwarden's site)
Same with Bitwarden: https://help.bitwarden.com/article/can-bitwarden-see-my-pass...
Re:Bitwarden: Free, open-source password manager
by pedrogpimenta on Sunday October 06, 2019 @06:49PM
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I'm interested. Is it more secure than KeePass?
Re:Bitwarden: Free, open-source password manager
by jsmith99 on Monday October 07, 2019 @03:37AM
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Not especially, but it supports multi user and organisations, so different use cases, although it's a decent choice for personal use too.
Re:Bitwarden: Free, open-source password manager
by edoceo on Sunday October 06, 2019 @06:27PM
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How about sharing password with a team?
Re:Bitwarden: Free, open-source password manager
by notpiika on Sunday October 06, 2019 @06:36PM
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You can use gopass[0] for that. It's pass but with syncing capabilities.
Re:Bitwarden: Free, open-source password manager
by edoceo on Sunday October 06, 2019 @07:19PM
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I should have said non-technical team. Currently we're kicking around passbolt - but, if there is time on Feature-Friday I want to eval BW
Re:Bitwarden: Free, open-source password manager
by sdan on Sunday October 06, 2019 @07:24PM
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In this case, Pass is probably not the right solution for you. It's a bit hard to setup keys and then share them over Git... which is most likely a bit too complicated. This being said, QtPass is a GUI for Pass, but not the best when compared to stuff like Bitwarden (presumably, haven't used it) or Lastpass.
Although it is a bit of a hassle to setup on mobile devices (I use Pass for iOS), the security and functionality it provides is worth it.