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Re:Apple approves previously rejected HKMap.live app by bradknowles on Friday October 04, 2019 @05:29PM (#21162074)
There is another choice for iOS -- register as a developer, and build and install the software yourself.

There's even a third party that is automating much of this process, because this is a hole that Apple will have a hard time closing.

The AltStore does not require a jailbreak: https://www.engadget.com/2019/09/26/altstore-alternative-ios...

Re:Apple approves previously rejected HKMap.live app by TaylorAlexander on Friday October 04, 2019 @06:36PM (#21162470)
Doesn’t this require the person building the code to own a Mac, a potentially expensive computer? Also I recall that years ago there was a $100 fee to register as an iOS developer, though I’ve no idea if that continues to be the case.
Re:Apple approves previously rejected HKMap.live app by Wowfunhappy on Friday October 04, 2019 @06:49PM (#21162535)
Yes, it still costs $100 per year, or else your apps expire after seven days and you can only have three (AltStore hacks notwithstanding—those will get closed soon I’m sure).

There are ways to sign apps without a Mac/xCode, namely Cydia Impactor. But Apple has very purposefully made this impractical for every day use.

Re:Apple approves previously rejected HKMap.live app by fernandotakai on Friday October 04, 2019 @06:57PM (#21162583)
and the cost of a macbook. for some people, it's a given.

but if you live in a 3rd world country, a macbook can cost as much as a car. it's just not viable.

Re:Apple approves previously rejected HKMap.live app by matwood on Saturday October 05, 2019 @08:36AM (#21165159)
> but if you live in a 3rd world country, a macbook can cost as much as a car. it's just not viable.

Not to be glib, but if a person can't afford a used/low end Mac how can they afford an iPhone?

Re:Apple approves previously rejected HKMap.live app by TaylorAlexander on Saturday October 05, 2019 @11:53AM (#21166197)
Well my issue is I have no use for a Mac, I’m a Linux user.
Re:Apple approves previously rejected HKMap.live app by Wowfunhappy on Friday October 04, 2019 @07:11PM (#21162680)
Again, you don’t actually need a Macbook, you can use Cydia Impactor on any Windows or Linux machine.
Re:Apple approves previously rejected HKMap.live app by moron4hire on Friday October 04, 2019 @11:45PM (#21163685)
How do you build the IPA without Xcode?

Hell, whatever that process is, I might even use it in a Mac (if I had one), just because I have Xcode so much.

Re:Apple approves previously rejected HKMap.live app by Wowfunhappy on Saturday October 05, 2019 @06:13AM (#21164729)
If the actual goal is to sideload—which is what was being discussed—you don’t need to compile anything. You’d download a prebuilt but unsigned IPA, and then use Cydia Impactor to sign it with your developer certificate.
Re:Apple approves previously rejected HKMap.live app by kelnos on Saturday October 05, 2019 @02:13AM (#21164083)
If you're ok trusting a third party (such as an alternative app store), they can build it, send you the binary, you sign it (on Windows or Linux), and install it on the phone.
Re:Apple approves previously rejected HKMap.live app by GordonS on Friday October 04, 2019 @06:47PM (#21162522)
Yes, it does require access to MacOS, and payment to Apple to register as a dev - even aside from having to build apps yourself, this is not a reasonable solution to escaping the walled garden
Re:Apple approves previously rejected HKMap.live app by monocularvision on Saturday October 05, 2019 @01:06AM (#21163915)
It doesn’t require a Mac or the $99 developer fee. You can use a free developer account and a non-Mac as the server.
Re:Apple approves previously rejected HKMap.live app by GordonS on Saturday October 05, 2019 @04:18AM (#21164369)
Maybe we're talking about 2 different things here; to build for iOS, you need Xcode, and for Xcode you need MacOS and a dev subscription.
Re:Apple approves previously rejected HKMap.live app by morpheuskafka on Friday October 04, 2019 @09:46PM (#21163306)
There is a $99 fee for the Apple Developer Membership. A Mac is only needed to run Xcode, which is Apple's IDE+toolchain for iOS/macOS/etc development. If you want to build from source, you do need a Mac. If you want to install a precompiled app (.ipa file) you can use Windows or Linux.
Re:Apple approves previously rejected HKMap.live app by xmprt on Friday October 04, 2019 @06:13PM (#21162361)
That's against TOS and it's something that Apple is trying to fix. This is not a solution. It's a hack.