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Re:Unsteady income in young adulthood linked to thinking pro... by tiku on Friday October 04, 2019 @08:21AM (#21156860)
Well it could be a lot of different things. No money for good food, sports and a lot of stress that accompanies having no steady source of income etc..
Re:Unsteady income in young adulthood linked to thinking pro... by helpPeople on Friday October 04, 2019 @08:50AM (#21157089)
Sure, eating flour mixed with water is cheaper than vegetables. But I don't think people do that.

Instead people wrongly think fast food is cheaper than home cooked food.

Not sure your point of "no money for good food"

Source- calories and protein and vitamins per dollar

Edit- fast food is not necessarily faster. Carrots and protein shakes are faster than waiting in line for example.

Re:Unsteady income in young adulthood linked to thinking pro... by anonuser123456 on Friday October 04, 2019 @08:56AM (#21157139)
>Instead people wrongly think fast food is cheaper than home cooked food.

Fast food is cheaper than home cooked food when you factor in time & mental effort. Cooking at home requires skills that many people do not have.

Re:Unsteady income in young adulthood linked to thinking pro... by ackshually on Friday October 04, 2019 @09:09AM (#21157238)
This this this. It's all well and good cooking and prepping etc when you're in a comfortable house and have stocked kitchen space to yourself at home, but when you realise that a lot of people eating out every day don't have access to space in a kitchen that isn't busy with the four other people they live with, that don't get home until 7pm at night and have to leave at 7am in the morning to get to work etc, and you realise that unless cooking is your hobby in those situations you wouldn't have time to decompress after work and make a nutritious meal and also prep lunch for the following day etc.

Yes weekend meal prep is a thing too - but freezer space is at a premium in shared households and there's always the threat of a roommate or family member taking the food for themselves.

Re:Unsteady income in young adulthood linked to thinking pro... by abledon on Friday October 04, 2019 @09:15AM (#21157295)
seems like people need to enter a 'team' mindset, where you share cooking duties with roommates etc.. trying to help each other pull themselves out of poverty. ofc this is 0.1% likely to happen, but when it does, i think it would work.
Re:Unsteady income in young adulthood linked to thinking pro... by AlexTWithBeard on Friday October 04, 2019 @09:57AM (#21157721)
ofc this is 0.1% likely to happen

I think you severely underestimate the power of teamwork.

That's how our family has survived through 90s. This grandma will watch after everyone's kids. That only guy who has a car will buy cheap potatoes in bulk for everyone.

Re:Unsteady income in young adulthood linked to thinking pro... by SketchySeaBeast on Friday October 04, 2019 @09:44AM (#21157571)
When you're in constant survival mode, it's hard to think like that. How can you spare the time helping someone else when you're already drowning?
Re:Unsteady income in young adulthood linked to thinking pro... by InitialLastName on Monday October 07, 2019 @05:55PM (#21186391)
The difficult thing is that we've gone a long way towards eliminating the tight-knit communities from our society. It's a lot easier to coordinate resource and effort sharing with people you've known your entire life (family, family-ish, and church cohorts).

Even just the church tradition of organizing bringing food to somebody in the community who is sick, indisposed or undergoing a stressful time in their lives (think: just had a kid) is falling by the wayside.

Re:Unsteady income in young adulthood linked to thinking pro... by dsfyu404ed on Friday October 04, 2019 @09:42AM (#21157550)
You're making the assumption that poor people expect upper middle class standards of inconvenience (well, lack thereof) in their daily lives. This is not the case because if you don't know what you're missing it's hard to miss it. If the kitchen is busy you wait or work around people. "Time to decompress" isn't even on most people's radar as a thing they want to do. When you have to eat dinner make lunch and go to sleep to get to work the next day that takes priority. It's not "woe is me I can't sit on my butt for half an hour and watch Jeopardy tonight," it's just life.
Re:Unsteady income in young adulthood linked to thinking pro... by AlexTWithBeard on Friday October 04, 2019 @09:47AM (#21157602)
Sorry, this is beyond my understanding.

Morning porridge: pour water into oats. Microwave for 2 minutes.

Dinner: pour water into rice. Boil for 10 minutes. Add a rotisserie chicken from the grocery store.

My 7yo does it. Do you seriously think there's a non-disabled adult incapable of pouring water in a bowl?

Re:Unsteady income in young adulthood linked to thinking pro... by watwut on Friday October 04, 2019 @12:58PM (#21159575)
Buying ready to eat chicken every day and buying fast food is different how?
Re:Unsteady income in young adulthood linked to thinking pro... by DoreenMichele on Friday October 04, 2019 @05:29PM (#21162077)
People who are homeless or inadequately housed can have no access to the ability to do this. They may not have a microwave or means to boil water.
Re:Unsteady income in young adulthood linked to thinking pro... by anonuser123456 on Friday October 04, 2019 @11:17AM (#21158508)
>Do you seriously think there's a non-disabled adult incapable of pouring water in a bowl?

I seriously think there are non-disabled adults that would never think to pour water into a bowl for oatmeal. That's the crux of my argument. The meta cognitive step to "change the status quo" appears to be beyond the capability of most people.

Re:Unsteady income in young adulthood linked to thinking pro... by reroute1 on Friday October 04, 2019 @10:57AM (#21158329)
Great now you're able to eat one crappy meal forever. Maybe people want variety and taste and don't have time to invest in that?? Maybe people live in an area not near a good grocery store, which is VERY common in lower income areas... think harder if you can't envision this being more complicated than it seems
Re:Unsteady income in young adulthood linked to thinking pro... by SolaceQuantum on Friday October 04, 2019 @01:48PM (#21160101)
Of course rotisserie chicken is just another form of fast food. You're proving the point!
Re:Unsteady income in young adulthood linked to thinking pro... by AlexTWithBeard on Friday October 04, 2019 @02:44PM (#21160637)
It's as "fast" as bread and instant coffee.

At least it's cheap, reasonably healthy and tasty.

Re:Unsteady income in young adulthood linked to thinking pro... by SolaceQuantum on Friday October 04, 2019 @04:13PM (#21161482)
It's not, actually, since it involves buying a microwave and waiting for things for cook... But more specifically, the above specifies cooking without relying on pre-made food like rotisserie, and you're proving the point that the cheap and healthy and tasty and easy choice is using pre-made food.
Re:Unsteady income in young adulthood linked to thinking pro... by Mirioron on Friday October 04, 2019 @05:10PM (#21161936)
But a rotisserie chicken essentially costs as much as fast food would.
Re:Unsteady income in young adulthood linked to thinking pro... by swiley on Friday October 04, 2019 @11:15AM (#21158488)
I'm usually sympathetic to this but dumping ramen into a coffee pot doesn't require skills. Frying an egg does but not much, and you could just microwave them instead. etc.
Re:Unsteady income in young adulthood linked to thinking pro... by coldtea on Friday October 04, 2019 @09:02AM (#21157190)
>Sure, eating flour mixed with water is cheaper than vegetables. But I don't think people do that.

You'd be surprised. Ever heard e.g. of "syrup sandwiches"?

Or dozens of other ways poor people get by with no money for food?

It's not just "fast food". And even that, it's not because they "wrongly think fast food is cheaper than home cooked food" -- it's because fast food is less stressful to make when you have to work like crazy, in excruciating jobs to make ends meets, and requires less time...

Re:Unsteady income in young adulthood linked to thinking pro... by non-entity on Friday October 04, 2019 @11:02AM (#21158378)
I remember my stepmother recalling her late teenage years / early adulthood poverty. She said she used to get a bunch of ketchup packets from a McDonalds to use a a very bad "tomato soup" base
Re:Unsteady income in young adulthood linked to thinking pro... by bryanrasmussen on Friday October 04, 2019 @09:27AM (#21157412)
I'm pretty sure that if someone thinks fast food is "cheaper" they are working off the "time is money" assumption.
Re:Unsteady income in young adulthood linked to thinking pro... by Mirioron on Friday October 04, 2019 @05:08PM (#21161916)
Protein per dollar is actually quite expensive compared to carbs and fat. On the other hand, protein in fast food is even more expensive.