China laying tracks for 1,000km/h maglev trains

Re:China laying tracks for 1,000km/h maglev trains by jbay808 on Thursday October 03, 2019 @05:38PM (#21152526)

Mountain ranges didn't seem to be a problem for Japan's high speed rail network.

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Re:China laying tracks for 1,000km/h maglev trains by MrFlynn on Thursday October 03, 2019 @06:43PM (#21153035)

That's because they mostly avoided mountains on their high speed routes. The Tokaido and Sanyo Shinkansen mostly follow the coastline and the Tohoku Shinkansen mostly goes through a valley. There are lines that do bore through mountain ranges, but nothing to the extent of several hundred miles as would be required for a line through the California coastal range.

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Re:China laying tracks for 1,000km/h maglev trains by jbay808 on Thursday October 03, 2019 @08:15PM (#21153658)

Except the one they're building now...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ch%C5%AB%C5%8D_Shinkansen

"About 90% of the 286-kilometre (178 mi) line to Nagoya will be built underground or through tunnels"

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Re:China laying tracks for 1,000km/h maglev trains by Gibbon1 on Thursday October 03, 2019 @09:30PM (#21154046)

I feel like this sort of thing just proves that the problem with building high speed rail in the US is cultural[1] and political[2] not technical or economic.

[1] Americans have been carefully propagandized to believe that governments can't do anything right. And cars represent manhood and freedom.

[2] For instance Ubber and Lift are funding the same anti public transportation organizations the Koch brother(s) were.

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Re:China laying tracks for 1,000km/h maglev trains by WillPostForFood on Thursday October 03, 2019 @10:23PM (#21154288)

Americans have been carefully propagandized to believe that governments can't do anything right

Then the people decide to give the government a chance, pass a proposition asking for rail, and then the government completely screws it up. Terrible route, corrupt, massively over budget, graft, and effectively cancelled after a decade of waste and work. So now even progressive people in progressive California are thinking the government can't so anything right, not because of propaganda, but because they see the failure.

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Re:China laying tracks for 1,000km/h maglev trains by MrFlynn on Friday October 04, 2019 @02:18AM (#21155266)

And the current estimated cost of that hsr system exceeds the estimated cost of the entire 520 mi (840 km) phase 1 system in California. Imagine scaling the cost of a similar design to travel the distance from SF to LA, ignoring the fact that the Japanese tend to build these grand infrastructure projects far more cost effectively than we do.

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Re:China laying tracks for 1,000km/h maglev trains by HenryKissinger on Thursday October 03, 2019 @09:43PM (#21154103)

As someone who loves tunnels, I'm going to write myself a note to try this line when I make my first trip to Japan.

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Re:China laying tracks for 1,000km/h maglev trains by m4rtink on Thursday October 03, 2019 @10:19PM (#21154269)

Well, then definitely try the Kurobe Gorge mountain railway! It's a originally industrial railway in a deep valley that was used for dam construction. On the hour long journey it goes through none less than 42 tunnels & the view (when not underground :) ) is breathtaking. :)

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Re:China laying tracks for 1,000km/h maglev trains by rangibaby on Thursday October 03, 2019 @08:52PM (#21153869)

The maglev Shinkansen is literally a tunnel bored from Tokyo to Nagoya

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Re:China laying tracks for 1,000km/h maglev trains by lmm on Thursday October 03, 2019 @06:36PM (#21152993)

Huh? They absolutely were. Cities that look close on a map can easily take 3x long as you would think to get to by train because the high speed line goes a long way around (or, in the case of e.g. Nagasaki, because there's no high speed line there at all).

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