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Re:Big ISPs aren’t happy about Google’s plans for encrypted DNS by jchw on Tuesday October 01, 2019 @08:41PM (#21132422)
For what it’s worth, at least in Chromium’s implementation:

- The hosts file should still take effect (Chromium can read the hosts file and parse it already.)

- The DoH upgrading should not override your default resolver. It works by having a lookup table of providers that support DoH and using DoH if your provider supports it. The list can be seen here: https://cs.chromium.org/chromium/src/net/dns/dns_util.cc?q=D... (note: this URL may become stale over time; there’s ways to improve this but I am on mobile at the moment.)

Re:Big ISPs aren’t happy about Google’s plans for encrypted DNS by echelon on Tuesday October 01, 2019 @08:52PM (#21132494)
For now.

Google sneezes and this is gone.

We didn't think they'd take away extensions' abilities to block ads, and yet here we are.

We've seriously got to pursue breaking this company up. They're the absolute worst.

Re:Big ISPs aren’t happy about Google’s plans for encrypted DNS by tptacek on Tuesday October 01, 2019 @08:54PM (#21132503)
That is a serious misrepresentation of what's happening with Manifest v3.
Re:Big ISPs aren’t happy about Google’s plans for encrypted DNS by echelon on Tuesday October 01, 2019 @09:40PM (#21132738)
> serious misrepresentation

How is it a serious misrepresentation?

Manifest v3 cripples the ability to block ads.

Google is an ad company and has the largest browser market share by far.

How is this not abuse?

Google can claim that things like AMP are not intended to rope us into their walled garden, that it's all about improving performance. But at the end of the day, most of the moves they make further their goal of serving more ads.

In twenty years I wouldn't be too terribly surprised if independent websites are largely gone. Disappeared like IRC, RSS, blogging on your own website, and the like.

I'm sorry you disagree. I just don't like what I see happening.

Re:Big ISPs aren’t happy about Google’s plans for encrypted DNS by ehsankia on Tuesday October 01, 2019 @10:10PM (#21132880)
My Chrome browser still perfectly blocks ads. The day it stops doing that, then you have a valid point. Until then, it's mostly fear mongering and misrepresenting the situation.