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Re:People don’t want to commute; they just don’t want to mis... by lr4444lr on Tuesday October 01, 2019 @08:07AM (#21124384)
Speaking in gross generality, the kind of educated talent they need probably live and want to live disproportionately in more expensive areas, and the lure of remote work at non-competitive salaries for the area where they reside is probably not enough. But I'm just guessing here.
Re:People don’t want to commute; they just don’t want to mis... by zzzcpan on Tuesday October 01, 2019 @08:13AM (#21124422)
> the kind of educated talent they need probably live and want to live disproportionately in more expensive areas

Really? My impression is that nobody wants to live in expensive tech hubs where they can't even own a place to live, but they can't leave because there is much less work elsewhere.

Re:People don’t want to commute; they just don’t want to mis... by ghaff on Tuesday October 01, 2019 @08:37AM (#21124633)
It's a mix.

There are certainly people who are convinced that they can only find meaningful work in a handful of tech hubs--first and foremost the Bay Area. I'd argue they're mostly wrong but you won't convince many of them.

However, there are others who genuinely like the Bay Area in spite of all its downsides for reasons that I even somewhat understand when I visit. The culture, the lack of snow, etc. Others are like New Yorkers who consider every other city a provincial cowtown.

Re:People don’t want to commute; they just don’t want to mis... by non-entity on Tuesday October 01, 2019 @10:29AM (#21125670)
> There are certainly people who are convinced that they can only find meaningful work in a handful of tech hubs--first and foremost the Bay Area. I'd argue they're mostly wrong but you won't convince many of them.

As someone who kind of feels this way, I guess it depends on how you define meaningful. I grew up and live in the Southeast. Its not like there arent jobs out here, but majority of jobs around here a corporate, "code monkey" jobs. Yeah, there are startups and some markets that are outliers, but its rare for me to see a job in this region and thing "wow this would be a really cool job". OTOH I've seen job listings for companies in say, the bay area or Austin that seemed really interesting (to me), from companies large and small and it just seems to come down to where the companies have offices.

Re:People don’t want to commute; they just don’t want to mis... by esoterica on Tuesday October 01, 2019 @11:35AM (#21126539)
You’ve never heard of the “dreaming of moving to the big city” trope? There are and have always been millions of people who want to move to HCOL cities even if they don’t have access to the jobs that would financially justify it.

The reason why doctors get paid more in underserved areas is because very few highly educated people want to live in rural Alabama, even if the houses are cheap.

Re:People don’t want to commute; they just don’t want to mis... by mcv on Tuesday October 01, 2019 @09:10AM (#21124899)
Everybody wants to live in expensive tech hubs. That's why it's so expensive: more demand than supply.
Re:People don’t want to commute; they just don’t want to mis... by ghaff on Tuesday October 01, 2019 @09:30AM (#21125091)
For certain values of "everybody." Lots of people have no desire to live in an expensive coastal city.
Re:People don’t want to commute; they just don’t want to mis... by mcv on Tuesday October 01, 2019 @03:44PM (#21129732)
Of course, but the fact that they are so expensive is caused by the fact that so many people want to live there. It's the rising cost of living that provide a balance to that.
Re:People don’t want to commute; they just don’t want to mis... by bryanlarsen on Tuesday October 01, 2019 @09:13AM (#21124931)
More specifically, everybody wants to live where the jobs are and the opportunity for career progression is.
Re:People don’t want to commute; they just don’t want to mis... by mcv on Tuesday October 01, 2019 @03:42PM (#21129710)
For jobs, but also for many other things. It's where lots of things come together, lots of things happen. More restaurants, museums, night life, music venues, theatres, etc. Cities often have a long history, historical landmarks, etc.

I certainly wouldn't want to trade Amsterdam for the town I grew up in. Then again, my dad clearly disagrees. On the other hand, Amsterdam probably isn't quite as expensive as London, New York or San Francisco.

Re:People don’t want to commute; they just don’t want to mis... by JohnFen on Tuesday October 01, 2019 @05:20PM (#21130816)
Well, not everybody -- I don't!
Re:People don’t want to commute; they just don’t want to mis... by triceratops on Wednesday October 02, 2019 @01:19AM (#21133609)
> My impression is that nobody wants to live in expensive tech hubs where they can't even own a place to live

"Nobody goes there anymore, it's too crowded."

Re:People don’t want to commute; they just don’t want to mis... by thrower123 on Tuesday October 01, 2019 @08:27AM (#21124548)
I do wonder how much people really enjoy living in those places, versus rationalizing that it's actually great because they have to be there. At least if they want to earn the 3-5x salaries that one can get there, versus what is offered in different zipcodes.