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Re:‘Out here, it’s just me’: one doctor for 11,000 square miles by jandrewrogers on Monday September 30, 2019 @04:32PM (#21119402)
In most cases, people live there because that is where their lives and family are, not because they are poor per se or "trapped". In fact, many of them are not poor by any constructive definition. These populations, while shrinking and aging, have productive lives often related to resource extraction industries such as farming and mining which are not going away. People are simply choosing to remain in the areas where they built their life.

Labor shortages are a critical problem in many of these communities. Young locals often move to the cities and rarely move back, and while automation has helped support the local industries it has not nearly covered the shortfall. Much of the working age labor that does move into these areas is either illegal immigrants or ex-convicts looking for a fresh start. Due to shortages, minimally skilled physical labor often commands 3-4x minimum wage in my experience.

It is a mistake to think that people want to be rescued from these areas. Maybe some do but most have reasons for living where they live.

Re:‘Out here, it’s just me’: one doctor for 11,000 square miles by cududa on Monday September 30, 2019 @07:17PM (#21120565)
Show some data on this, because by and large, people in rural America are absolutely poor. https://www.ers.usda.gov/topics/rural-economy-population/rur...
Re:‘Out here, it’s just me’: one doctor for 11,000 square miles by rayiner on Monday September 30, 2019 @07:34PM (#21120659)
The story flips if you use the Supplemental Poverty Measure, which adjusts for cost of living: https://www.irp.wisc.edu/wp/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/Focus.... Rural poverty has consistently been similar to urban poverty, and was measurably lower during the great recession. Rural areas also have lower long-term poverty (where a family was poor for two successive measurement years). About 4% in 2016 for rural areas, versus 5.5% in urban areas.

The states with the lowest SPM poverty rates are midwestern states with large rural populations, like Iowa and Nebraska: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territ.... (California's poverty rate is almost double those states'.)

Re:‘Out here, it’s just me’: one doctor for 11,000 square miles by haimez on Monday September 30, 2019 @07:42PM (#21120704)
Sure, but during a recession no one is moving into those areas and a LOT of unemployed are moving AWAY from them. The metrics look good because they misrepresent what’s actually happening.
Re:‘Out here, it’s just me’: one doctor for 11,000 square miles by rayiner on Monday September 30, 2019 @08:07PM (#21120830)
Actually the opposite is true: https://www.ers.usda.gov/webdocs/publications/90556/eib-200..... There was a significant rural to urban net migration during boom economies which slowed to zero during both the early 2000s recession and the 2008 recession. And in fact there was a small migration from urban back to rural during the last recession.

The unemployment rate in Iowa peaked at a little more than half the national unemployment rate in 2009-2010.

Re:‘Out here, it’s just me’: one doctor for 11,000 square miles by HeadsUpHigh on Tuesday October 01, 2019 @09:13AM (#21124930)
That's objectively and measurably false.
Re:‘Out here, it’s just me’: one doctor for 11,000 square miles by jandrewrogers on Monday September 30, 2019 @07:59PM (#21120794)
The link you provided appears to support my assertion. The vast majority of rural lands in the US have relatively low poverty rates, similar to non-rural poverty rates. A relatively small number of regions with extremely high poverty rates skew the national average, though only by a few percentage points, and in large parts of the US the poverty rates are effectively the same across rural and non-rural populations. Most of the rural US is not Appalachia. Maybe not wealthy but definitely middle class.

As noted at your link, many of the extremely poor rural areas skewing the averages are Native American reservations. How do you propose to make them relocate to cities?

Re:‘Out here, it’s just me’: one doctor for 11,000 square miles by EliRivers on Tuesday October 01, 2019 @03:01AM (#21122705)
Didn't a lot of mining jobs already, to a significant extent, go away?

Here's coal mining in the US, over the last 35 years: https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CES1021210001

Re:‘Out here, it’s just me’: one doctor for 11,000 square miles by bradleyjg on Tuesday October 01, 2019 @12:13AM (#21121997)
So what’s the problem then? If they have the money to pay the extra costs needed to attract labor to provide the services they want where they choose to live then the system is working perfectly fine, no?

If they don’t have the money they should move, possibly with assistance. I don’t see any case for subsidizing services in places where it really expensive to provide those services. Why that’d be like government grants to rebuild houses on a flood plain that got flooded out.

Re:‘Out here, it’s just me’: one doctor for 11,000 square miles by HeadsUpHigh on Tuesday October 01, 2019 @09:12AM (#21124914)
I'm not sure what you mean by that but there's a limit to how many more people you are going to attract with more money. Quality of the job in rural areas for doctors is pretty low as you don't get a lot of other specialties to help you and you don't have the same tools available either.