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Re:Instagram Threatened Removal of Verified Status for Posti... by sschueller on Monday September 30, 2019 @09:10AM (#21114941)
Youtube recently decided to change their requirements to become verified. They emailed existing verified users that they no longer meet these requirements and therefore will loose the "verified" status.

Completely insane.

Re:Instagram Threatened Removal of Verified Status for Posti... by nilkn on Monday September 30, 2019 @10:07AM (#21115477)
For what it’s worth, my understanding is they were actually trying to fix the situation but users conceptualize being “verified” as a sign of status and so got upset. A lot of YouTubers are currently “verified” for whom there is no risk of mistaking them for a clone account. The only real point is for YouTube to verify the channels of actual celebrities who will get lots of copycats and are known off the platform.
Re:Instagram Threatened Removal of Verified Status for Posti... by sschueller on Monday September 30, 2019 @10:21AM (#21115618)
But if your ID has been "verified", why would you all of a sudden no longer be verified unless the verification was fraudulent?

To verify yourself on instagram etc. you need to submit identification etc. . Once you have done that there should be no reason to take that away from you if valid.

You are still you unless maybe you get married and your name changes which could require a re-verification and if the policy was changed that you don't qualify for verification it would be fair for you to be no longer verified.

Re:Instagram Threatened Removal of Verified Status for Posti... by dwild on Monday September 30, 2019 @10:32AM (#21115742)
> But if your ID has been "verified", why would you all of a sudden no longer be verified unless the verification was fraudulent?

From what I understands, the previous verification was merely reaching 100k, nothing more. I wouldn't call that fraudulent, but considering many people may expect it to means that their identity was actually verified by Youtube (and not that they simply reached a milestone in subscription), I wouldn't call that being verified.

> To verify yourself on instagram etc. you need to submit identification etc. . Once you have done that there should be no reason to take that away from you if valid.

I agree, but we aren't talking about Instagram now, but Youtube.

Re:Instagram Threatened Removal of Verified Status for Posti... by fulvous on Monday September 30, 2019 @02:52PM (#21118509)
On YouTube can you set your name to anything, including the name of another channel. This leads to accounts with the same name and profile picture as the actual channel commenting on any popular video. These accounts typically have no subscribers as they are not channels of actual creators. Having 100K subscribers proves you are an actual channel with fans who will want to know if a comment posted under that name is the actual content creator.
Re:Instagram Threatened Removal of Verified Status for Posti... by dwild on Tuesday October 01, 2019 @10:46AM (#21125839)
> Having 100K subscribers proves you are an actual channel with fans who will want to know if a comment posted under that name is the actual content creator.

There's 2 issues here. First it doesn't means the subscribers are actually legit. You could see from time to time channel that can lose hundred thousands subscribers in a day because Youtube purged a bunch of fake accounts. It's harder to see now that Youtube abbreviate the subscriber count, but I remember, it wasn't something constant, it was sporadic.

Second, it's only true if the name is original. More and more channels reach the 100k everyday, it's just going to be harder and harder to make sure none of them try to impersonate someone else. If that stay the only thing needed to be "verified", you'll get someone that will get that "verified" status even though he isn't the one he is saying he is, that's just the good old Murphy's law for you.

As I said, verify tag make people believe that you have actually been verified. It does makes sense that you change your politic so that you actually verify people...

Re:Instagram Threatened Removal of Verified Status for Posti... by delusional on Monday September 30, 2019 @10:43AM (#21115859)
It's about what people know you from. If people know you from off platform, and they go to YouTube to see that same person, I can verify that. If your main platform is YouTube, then obviously you are you by definition, and verification carries no information.

Basically, if you were tasked with verifying KFC, you could check that the KFC on YouTube is indeed the fast food chain. If you were tasked with verifying PewDiePie, then what are you verifying?

Re:Instagram Threatened Removal of Verified Status for Posti... by apostacy on Monday September 30, 2019 @10:28AM (#21115686)
I think the benefit of verifying someone nobody has heard of is that you know that they have submitted identification documents to YouTube, and are less likely to be scamming you, and could be sued.

I would certainly trust a verified user more for that reason.

Re:Instagram Threatened Removal of Verified Status for Posti... by dwild on Monday September 30, 2019 @10:28AM (#21115690)
What have they done wrong?

I searched and seems like the previous politic was to simply give the verified status if you reached 100k subscribers without any others verification. How is that verified in any way? Is that verification was merely to state that at least 100k people clicked a button? That would makes it a pretty bad verified status and pretty far from what anyone may expect it to verify. Considering Youtube only remove bots from time to time, it may not even be true.

They were never verified in the first place, removing them makes sense.

Re:Instagram Threatened Removal of Verified Status for Posti... by zadkey on Monday September 30, 2019 @09:50AM (#21115300)
MXR mods had this exact problem on youtube.