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Re:A developer goes to a DevOps conference by Aeolun on Sunday September 29, 2019 @06:48AM (#21106302)
> TLDR; don’t be ridiculous. Smart people do this stuff professionally and then you come along and think you’re some hot shot who can do it in a few minutes?

Basically, yes. Mainly because I do this professionally too.

Just because I haven’t been assigned to do it this time does not mean I can’t.

How about you are generous and interpret my comment as if I know what I’m talking about, then I won’t be an ass and nuance my previous statement a bit.

Something can (and probably should) take a month the first time around. Then, if you’ve actually fulfilled your promise as ‘devops’ any second time you are doing this thing it should take significantly less time. Maybe you’ve not automated all parts, but certainly the most common ones.

I think we’re now at iteration 20+, and it still takes a month for every new environment (dev, sqa, prod) of the same application.

Now it’s definitely possible there is a reasonable explanation for that, but it’s starting to get a bit suspect. Enough so that I’ll make a frustrated comment about it on HN when the subject comes up.

Re:A developer goes to a DevOps conference by tjalfi on Sunday September 29, 2019 @11:03AM (#21107407)
Have you looked at their ticket queue?

It could be a matter of work in progress or internal bottlenecks.

[0] has a good summary of WIP after the heading titled "Why Do We Need To Visualize IT Work And Control WIP?".

TLDR - read the Phoenix Project.

[0] https://itrevolution.com/resource-guide-for-the-phoenix-proj...