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Re:Men Are Waiting to Share Some Feelings (2018) by goatinaboat on Saturday September 28, 2019 @05:59AM (#21099474)
When I told several female friends about the work they did, their response was: "Are they gay?"

It's funny. From the days of chivalry all the way to the modern patriarchy, men's behaviours have been conditioned by one overriding factor: what will impress women? I don't see that evaporating overnight. Men suppress the emotions for the simple reason that women have demonstrated a preference for men that do that, and this is simply an example of that being made explicit. You could say "this is how the patriarchy harms men!". But it wasn't men who chose it to be this way.

Re:Men Are Waiting to Share Some Feelings (2018) by paganel on Saturday September 28, 2019 @07:15AM (#21099730)
12th or 13th century chivalrous poetry from South of France was still full of feelings and what have you, and a little earlier the Arthur-related stories were not void of feelings either. I personally blame the “Protestant ethic”, for lack of a better name, which started culturally imposing itself starting with the mid-1600s in England and present-day Netherlands (in the early 1600s a guy like Shakespeare was still not afraid to share his feelings in his Sonnets).
Re:Men Are Waiting to Share Some Feelings (2018) by nradov on Saturday September 28, 2019 @03:28PM (#21102357)
Did the majority of 12th century French women consider those poets attractive?
Re:Men Are Waiting to Share Some Feelings (2018) by paganel on Saturday September 28, 2019 @04:01PM (#21102530)
Probably, otherwise why would have they wrote the way that they did? And earlier than that we have Achilles, the male character that is synonymous with courage and presented by Homer as “the greatest of all Greek warriors”, but even so he wasn’t afraid to cry when his close friend Patroclus was killed in battle.
Re:Men Are Waiting to Share Some Feelings (2018) by nradov on Saturday September 28, 2019 @09:13PM (#21104299)
That doesn't show any causality. People write poetry for all sorts of reasons.
Re:Men Are Waiting to Share Some Feelings (2018) by hirako2000 on Saturday September 28, 2019 @08:40AM (#21100008)
Spot on.
Re:Men Are Waiting to Share Some Feelings (2018) by hdfbdtbcdg on Saturday September 28, 2019 @09:52AM (#21100276)
Using the word patriarchy to describe modern western society is always going to derail any conversation about men's issues into a flame war.

EDIT added 'modern'.

Re:Men Are Waiting to Share Some Feelings (2018) by decebalus1 on Saturday September 28, 2019 @10:21AM (#21100415)
Whenever I hear patriarchy in a conversation I can't help but start laughing as it reminds me of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriarch which as growing up in an eastern orthodox family was a central part of my belief. It never helps the conversation.