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Re:Women are struggling to find men who make as much money a... by chongli on Thursday September 26, 2019 @06:05PM (#21086087)
The article talks at length about guys who are struggling or generally worse off than women but it makes no mention of the guys who have given up. I wonder how much that plays a role? The Japanese media have tales for years about Hikikomori [1] but the phenomenon certainly isn’t unique to Japan.

It’s one thing to call someone lazy, it’s quite another to try to understand why they live the way they do. Personally, I don’t believe in laziness as a real concept, at least not over the long term.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hikikomori

Re:Women are struggling to find men who make as much money a... by rblion on Thursday September 26, 2019 @06:13PM (#21086144)
I think this is a bigger problem than just economics, it's a cultural one too. You have a entire generation of boys/teens/men who either grew up with or are growing up with an endless amount of entertainment (games, movies, shows, music, porn, drugs), the consequences of outsourcing and automation, and the rise of feminism/PC-culture. All at one time, of course many are giving up or just opting out.

I've dated women I thought I wanted. One was a very attractive girl who was into astronomy and whose movie was Jurassic Park. She also had Borderline Personality Disorder. I recently dated an older woman who is a musician and a hardcore vegan, I parted ways with her because I realized I would never be able to live up their list for a 'perfect partner'.

I'm 29, maybe I'll settle down in my 30's. Maybe not. I honestly don't know. I don't think being married is for everyone. I have some friends and family who are married, they don't always seem happier. If anything, some of them seem trapped.

For now, creativity, learning, and travel are more fulfilling to me than dating, meaningless sex, chasing women.

Re:Women are struggling to find men who make as much money a... by nailer on Thursday September 26, 2019 @06:45PM (#21086405)
Things change after both sexes around 27. Your demand as an older male will cross hers as as younger woman. You're 29. Wait.
Re:Women are struggling to find men who make as much money a... by rblion on Thursday September 26, 2019 @07:05PM (#21086571)
I'm not worried about meeting women at all, I meet them all the time without putting in much effort. I'm just not sold on the idea of a wife and kids anymore, I used to think I 'had to' have that to be complete. I'm open to whatever life presents now as I go into my 30's.
Re:Women are struggling to find men who make as much money a... by nailer on Friday September 27, 2019 @07:38AM (#21090746)
That's fine. You're not under any biological pressure. As long as you're physically fit you have time to change your mind if you wish to do so.
Re:Women are struggling to find men who make as much money a... by fre3k on Thursday September 26, 2019 @06:41PM (#21086376)
I make good money (being a reasonably able software dev), and though physically attracted to women, am not interested in them, and haven't been for over a decade now. I was somewhat successful in my youth, but certainly no cassanova.

I find chasing and/or engaging in romantic relationships with women costs me far more than I estimate their worth at (the relationship, not the women themselves). And I'm not just talking money. I'm talking time, freedom, responsibility, cognitive cycles, etc. I think my time is best spent elsewhere on hobbies or video games or mindless entertainment or work.

Re:Women are struggling to find men who make as much money a... by brokenmachine on Friday September 27, 2019 @12:46AM (#21088532)
Maybe you'll come across somebody where the relationship is worth it later if you keep your mind open.

I laughed at "I think my time is best spent elsewhere on ... mindless entertainment".

Not saying you need it, but the world can be a pretty lonely place if you don't have anyone to share it with. Maybe there is someone who you can enjoy the same mindless entertainment with. :-)

You do you though. You're the only one who can.

Re:Women are struggling to find men who make as much money a... by fre3k on Monday September 30, 2019 @02:25AM (#21112253)
Doublful. I don't really go places where one would meet women.
Re:Women are struggling to find men who make as much money a... by brokenmachine on Monday September 30, 2019 @02:51AM (#21112370)
Women are everywhere. You have to get outside sometimes!
Re:Women are struggling to find men who make as much money a... by rblion on Thursday September 26, 2019 @08:39PM (#21087311)
We are in the same exact place inside. I'm glad I'm not the only one. I don't have a divorce or a child or anything hanging over me like that.

How old are you?

Re:Women are struggling to find men who make as much money a... by fre3k on Friday September 27, 2019 @07:25AM (#21090659)
Let's say somewhere between 27 and 35
Re:Women are struggling to find men who make as much money a... by lazyjones on Thursday September 26, 2019 @06:45PM (#21086404)
I presume you've heard of the https://www.mgtow.com community/movement?
Re:Women are struggling to find men who make as much money a... by fre3k on Thursday September 26, 2019 @06:50PM (#21086448)
Sure, but I don't identify with it. I haven't really been hurt past, you know, hey I like this girl and she doesn't like me boo hoo.

Just don't find the pursuit or the time dedications or the impact on my life worth it.

Re:Women are struggling to find men who make as much money a... by newnewpdro on Friday September 27, 2019 @12:35AM (#21088470)
It's not, unless you want to start a family. Then the whole vetting process disguised as "dating" is kind of important with significant life-changing returns.

Personally I decided I didn't want kids decades ago, it drastically changed the distribution of priorities. I, like you, simply can't be bothered with dating now. It's just not worth the time and effort, risk of STDs, risk of pregnancy, risk of crazy, drama, etc.

Having said that however, there is something to be said for having a reliable partner in old age when hospital visits and navigating the healthcare system becomes a regular activity. It's problematic to be alone in a hospital, for a variety of reasons.

Re:Women are struggling to find men who make as much money a... by mikelyons on Thursday September 26, 2019 @08:16PM (#21087127)
The truth is that it's not. Good on ya
Re:Women are struggling to find men who make as much money a... by analognoise on Thursday September 26, 2019 @11:51PM (#21088252)
Wow that's some sad cringy stuff. That's enough internet for this week.
Re:Women are struggling to find men who make as much money a... by thebigspacefuck on Friday September 27, 2019 @12:28AM (#21088426)
Is it the porn?