Re:Gigantic Chinese telescope opens to astronomers worldwide
by cgriswald on Thursday September 26, 2019 @12:12PM
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If you want to boil this down to black-and-white you need to compare the past, present, and future deaths of the anti-vax movement against the solution of 'not tolerating' anything that doesn't meet your utilitarian ideal. And that's aside from the moral aspects.
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Re:Gigantic Chinese telescope opens to astronomers worldwide
by katbyte on Thursday September 26, 2019 @12:37PM
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It is black and white. Everyone who can needs to vaccinate otherwise we loose herd immunity. Full stop. Vaccines benefit far more people then they negativity affect.
Re:Gigantic Chinese telescope opens to astronomers worldwide
by cgriswald on Thursday September 26, 2019 @01:16PM
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You and authoritarian seem to be saying "anti-vaxxers are completely bad!" Well, congratulations. You're right. But no one here is arguing with you.
The issue is whether allowing people voice in influencing policy in a democracy is an absolute good if it means people like anti-vaxxers can still influence policy. I argued that from the point of view of an anti-vaxxer they are doing good, and that, you might find yourself in such a position one day. That's irrespective of whether the anti-vaxxers are right or wrong and if the hypothetical you is right or wrong.
And if it's not clear by now, (which it should be for anyone who read the thread): I'm not an anti-vaxxer; I'm not in favor of them; and nothing I've said here is in support of them.