Re:What If Fighting Climate Change Is as Easy as Giving Up M...
by wmf on Thursday September 26, 2019 @12:44AM
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If we "just" internalized all the externalities then rich people would still eat meat, still drive, still fly, etc. while many people would have to give up those things. It might make inequality much more visible. There's also a moral angle that even "bad" people could "automatically" become green without having to change their minds about anything.
Re:What If Fighting Climate Change Is as Easy as Giving Up M...
by whenchamenia on Thursday September 26, 2019 @08:19AM
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I already see that happening in places like new york and california. The most trendy resturants are the ones that flunt the green image, and charge you as much or more to be seen there as for the food.
This is the meat of it for me.
What I don't understand is that most activists seem to push the "regulation" angle, when perhaps the simplest solution is to just stop artificially reducing the cost of meat. If we simply stopped subsidizing dairy, corn, and other agriculture products and instituted a tax on methane pollution (start small and work our way up to an estimate of the damage it causes), we'd see a decline in demand for animal products. Or maybe we'll see some innovation in reducing the impact of raising meat products (I saw something somewhat recently about decreasing methane production for cattle by adjusting diet).
But no, we have this weird conflict between "climate change believers" and "climate change deniers", and both want to use government to force their will in different ways. It's weird because simply making things cost what they cost to produce would do more to help fix climate change than all of the bickering on both sides. This should be an area that liberals and conservatives can agree on: less government involvement in business is a conservative taking point, and ending agricultural subsidies is a liberal talking point, so why aren't we doing it? Let's cut oil subsidies as well while we're at it.