> Airpods I use for workouts

I just bought airpods yesterday, and tried running with them for the first time today. I couldn't run more than 30 seconds without them falling out of my ear. (Kind of disappointing after spending $200)

I also have a Bose over the ear headphone. Too clunky for running.

These Amazon buds actually look like they could be better than Airpods for running. Looks like they have the "suction cup" type of design, which usually do a much better job staying in the ear when moving around.

I'm in between you and the other person that replied to you. I can wear Airpods running no problem, but no way if anything like a helmet strap is touching them (knocks them out). I'd never get a motorcycle helmet on without knocking them out.

With that said, try some Powerbeats Pros. They're the Beats version of Airpods, and frankly, I like them better. At $250, they're pricey as hell, but they sound better and they stay in better. With ear hooks and a collection of different sized buds, it eliminates trying to make a "one size fits most". If you don't have "Airpods ears", the Powerbeats are probably quicker to insert once you know the "trick" to getting them in. I always to have to fiddle with Airpods a bit to get them to sit right. Powerbeats: stick 'em in with that little twist of the wrist, sorted. And the Powerbeats have physical volume buttons, the lack of such being my one annoyance with Airpods.

Thanks for the recommendation!

That's interesting. Seems like your ear canal might have an atypical shape. I use my airpods all the time for running, mountain biking, motorcycling. I am still too scared to use them snowboarding because there's no way that I'm going to find them on the off chance that the do fall out into the snow.

The problem is that "atypical shape" is really common. All airpods need is some sort of ear-anchor / earclick thing.

I find that if I buy the old foam covers, they fit in my ear a little better and I can still close the case over them. It gets in the way of some of the sensor operation though.

The amazon buds look like they will fit more ears.

If you keep the airpods, you might try one of the many silicone "skins" you can slip over them. They don't fit into the case with these things on, but they do stay in more securely (and sound better).

Thanks, I didn’t know that existed. That may work.

Shame about the AirPods. I love mine and can wear them running, but if they don’t fit your ears that’s sort of it since they don’t make different sizes or anything. You have 15 days to return them no questions asked.

For running, I like the AfterShokz Titanium; it's using bone conduction so you don't lose any situational awareness.

you might try putting some silicone wraps on your airpods so they fit more snugly, eg: https://images.mobilefun.co.uk/graphics/productgalleries/633...

>I just bought airpods yesterday, and tried running with them for the first time today. I couldn't run more than 30 seconds without them falling out of my ear.

Depends on the ear (and maybe sweat levels)? Mine have never dropped that way.

I have a different understanding of Bose products, and do not consider them to be "good" in any sense, except marketing and resulting "snob value". For example, I haven't seen Bose publish any measurement data for their products, which is important for comparisons.

A funny quote: "No highs, no lows, must be Bose." And here is a link for further reading: http://web.archive.org/web/20130121081646/http://www.intelle...

That's a "hi-fi perspective". People buying Bose products don't care as they are not hi-fi snobs.

They just want good enough sound, and Bose give that. But what they excel is noise cancelling -- and it's irrelevant if they don't "publish any measurement data" as tons of outlets measure them, and have repeatedly crowned them kinds in the area (with the exception of the latest Sony MX1000M3).

That's the problem -- good enough sound can actually be had with headphones that cost a lot less. What they want is "snob value", admit it. ;-)

Can you provide a link to the measurement done by "tons of outlets"? Thank you!

Here's an example, from a well known one, which also describes their methodology, and has Bose come at the top:

https://thewirecutter.com/reviews/best-noise-cancelling-head...

Wirecutrer review tells me nothing about the actual headphone frequency response -- all the graphs are NC and not FR (freq response). [Or did I miss it?]

It appears they were mainly interested in testing noise cancellation and not sound quality. If that is the case, then my gun range ear muffs beat Bose hands down!

>Wirecutrer review tells me nothing about the actual headphone frequency response -- all the graphs are NC and not FR (freq response). [Or did I miss it?]

No, but did you miss where I wrote: "But what they excel is noise cancelling -- and it's irrelevant if they don't "publish any measurement data" as tons of outlets measure them, and have repeatedly crowned them kinds in the area (with the exception of the latest Sony MX1000M3)."

Again, can you provide data measured by "tons of outlets", SQ, not NC. As I said my $10 earmuffs beat Bose at NC. :-D

>Again, can you provide data measured by "tons of outlets", SQ, not NC.

As I already said from the start, people who buy the Bose don't really car for the lower SQ, their main benefit is the best-of-class NC. What I wrote is that many outlets reviewed them and agree of the best-of-class NC.

>As I said my $10 earmuffs beat Bose at NC. :-D

They don't make calls or play music at the same time, so that's a moot point.

Can you recommend a good bluetooth over the ear headphones w/ great noise cancellation and a pretty decent microphone for calls, USB-C, and at least 20 hours of battery life (I do 14hr flights often enough, so some buffer to use them before the flight and during the layover before recharging them for the next flight)? Those are my reasons for going with the NCH 700.

I used to think spending $350 on QC 35 II's was stupid, but after using a friend's pair on multiple flights and on walks outside I decided to get the $400 NCH 700. It costs more than the Xiaomi Mi Mix 2S I use in the US, or Pocophone F1 that I use elsewhere, but they're so worth it (I use them 10hrs+ per day, so after a single month the price is quickly approaching $1/hour.)

I would never buy a Bose speaker, I know that the audio quality is nothing special. But I've found among Bluetooth headphones there is nothing that feels as comfortable and works as well as the QC35.

Shrug, not every product is for everybody. I love the crap out of my QC30's, they're magical

QC35's are bulky. If I'm taking the loud noisy subway and not bringing a backpack, something that provides the noise-cancelling of the QC35's together with the form factor of the Airpods (stick 'em in my pocket) would be heaven.

Sony 1000xm3 earpuds

Aside from the active noise cancelling tech that bose uses, their products aren't synonymous with pretty good. From a technical standpoint the driver units in their headphones are crap. Even random chinese headphones at a fifth of the price can produce better sound than Bose products.

The old refrain: "No highs, no lows, must be Bose!"

Buy Other Sound Equipment?

Not sure why you've been downvoted here, you are completely correct. Bose's noise canceling is good, but everything else they build is really quite poor acoustically. This isn't really even up for much debate as it's pretty easy to demonstrate the awful frequency response of the vast majority of their products. They are a bit of a poster child for marketing over technical merit, the MongoDB of speakers really.