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Re:Looking Back at the Snowden Revelations by anilgulecha on Wednesday September 25, 2019 @09:15AM (#21070436)
Given that it was built by a highly trusted cryptography team, plus the fact that the protocol can be reverse engineered to confirm encryption and decryption on device, and that over-the-wire traffic has no plaintext, the trust in this is indeed very high.

WA has a lot to lose, and big enough target on it for a backdoor to have been found, if E2E is false.

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Re:Looking Back at the Snowden Revelations by ncmncm on Wednesday September 25, 2019 @09:29AM (#21070556)
Apparently anilgulecha is, like many, unaware that WhatsApp is no longer end-to-end encrypted. It technically trivial to tap the traffic between decrypting and re-encrypting stages, and the only plausible reason for the very expensive change was to enable such access.
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Re:Looking Back at the Snowden Revelations by inanutshellus on Wednesday September 25, 2019 @10:42AM (#21071224)
Looking at WhatsApp's website [1], instead of saying "your messages are definitely end-to-end encrypted at all times" they say it's "available", as in this sentence:

> WhatsApp's end-to-end encryption is available when you and the people you message use our app.

Is that what you're referring to?

[1] https://www.whatsapp.com/security/

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Re:Looking Back at the Snowden Revelations by ncmncm on Wednesday September 25, 2019 @01:11PM (#21072819)
I just remember a report that the end-to-end quality inherited from its Signal origins had been removed. At the time, the innocent-ish explanation suggested was for access to keywords for ad targeting.
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