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Re:Boeing's Managerial Revolution Created the 737 Max Disaster by baybal2 on Saturday September 21, 2019 @03:12PM (#21037275)
> This in a nutshell represents the core failure of modern managerial thinking. What started as "scientific management" many decades ago, an attempt to systematically understand how corporations should operate, quickly evolved into a group think belief that management could function as fungible & completely replaceable units of work-- that a "manager" could be trained up in various basic principles and plugged into any role

This is what I like about Chinese industry, for now...

They have not yet got themselves into "scientific management" coolaid.

"Sales call in the morning, prototypes in the evening" — says all about it. Find a single American electronics maker who can do that.

The crisis in American corporate culture is that people can't find out what their company exceeds in. So much focus goes to MBA things, than whatever is company's main competence gets less and less clear.

But in China, things crystal clear, for now:

Factories compete on cheap widgets

Engineering companies compete on TTM

Lawyers compete on winning cases

Car companies compete on horsepowers

Advertising companies compete on being obnoxious

Banks compete on cheaper loans

No "strategic analysis" bullshit

Re:Boeing's Managerial Revolution Created the 737 Max Disaster by ethbro on Saturday September 21, 2019 @04:51PM (#21037862)
I expect the downvotes are because of the unmentioned "communist, single-party states are the essence of groupthink coolaid" elephant.

But I doubt you're wrong on the engineering analysis.

The physical world has the unique property of being unbeholden to vision. Either the widget works, or it doesn't.

And in a marketplace with actual competition, you're going to have a lot of people working very hard to build a better widget.

Re:Boeing's Managerial Revolution Created the 737 Max Disaster by cat199 on Saturday September 21, 2019 @10:06PM (#21039186)
stealing your R&D and producing things using near-slave labor probably doesn't hurt competitive advantage too much either, but lets not pay attention to any of that..