Re:NSA Said to Have Used Heartbleed Bug for at Least Two Yea...
by monocasa on Friday September 20, 2019 @06:00PM
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They're also chartered to provide information assurance.
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Re:NSA Said to Have Used Heartbleed Bug for at Least Two Yea...
by tptacek on Friday September 20, 2019 @06:24PM
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I'm not sure anyone really takes the IAD mission seriously. The actual purpose of the organization is to do offensive SIGINT.
Re:NSA Said to Have Used Heartbleed Bug for at Least Two Yea...
by ENOTTY on Friday September 20, 2019 @07:44PM
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They don't try to take information assurance seriously?
Are projects like SELinux[1], SE for Android[2], or the STM/PE[3] serious enough?
[1]: "Retrospective: 26 Years of Flexible MAC" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKWFbxbsU3o
[2]: https://selinuxproject.org/page/SEforAndroid
[3]: https://www.cyberscoop.com/nsa-firmware-open-source-coreboot...
Re:NSA Said to Have Used Heartbleed Bug for at Least Two Yea...
by tptacek on Friday September 20, 2019 @07:47PM
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Oh, they requisition budget for the IAD mission, and they use it on IAD things. In reality, the most important thing NSA does is get budget allocated to itself! But does anyone believe that in a conflict between IAD and CNO/SIGINT, IAD has ever won?
Re:NSA Said to Have Used Heartbleed Bug for at Least Two Yea...
by PeCaN on Friday September 20, 2019 @06:31PM
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I think they got some retroactive goodwill from the DES thing when it was discovered that they legitimately made it stronger.
Of course, they've more than squandered that by now, but it's not like they always completely ignored the IAD.
Re:NSA Said to Have Used Heartbleed Bug for at Least Two Yea...
by monocasa on Friday September 20, 2019 @06:28PM
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I mean, I don't really have any sympathy for them writing off half their mission, despite the impunity with which they do so.
Re:NSA Said to Have Used Heartbleed Bug for at Least Two Yea...
by JohnFen on Friday September 20, 2019 @06:32PM
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Right, which is why any denial they make about this sort of thing is meaningless.
Re:NSA Said to Have Used Heartbleed Bug for at Least Two Yea...
by JasonFruit on Friday September 20, 2019 @06:08PM
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One of those goals benefits the people with power who are above the NSA. The other provides a benefit to the public at large that few will notice. Which goal do you think is likely to be top priority?
Re:NSA Said to Have Used Heartbleed Bug for at Least Two Yea...
by monocasa on Friday September 20, 2019 @06:15PM
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Well, in the case of heartbleed where first the NSA found it, and an independent researcher found it, and the DoD uses Linux and OpenSSL all over the place, you'd think that the information assurance side would be better represented. Who knows how many adversaries were using that as well before it was public (hence the whole point of responsible disclosure).
Edit: Like, stuff like cryptanalysis of SM4 is for sure on the table. I can even see their neat Diffie-Hellman hack that costs $100m per nonce. But a trivially remotely exploitable memory safety bug in software that runs large sections of the military? Like, come on.