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Re:Explanation of the state of uBlock Origin and other block... by cptskippy on Friday September 20, 2019 @10:08AM (#21026823)
In the later scenarios, what assurance does the Ablocker have that their requests are respected? I could easily see a scenario where an Adblocker says "Hey Chrome block all requests to ads.google.com" and Chrome saying "Sure thing buddy" then completely ignoring that request.
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Re:Explanation of the state of uBlock Origin and other block... by Angostura on Friday September 20, 2019 @10:58AM (#21027400)
The same assurance you have that the browser wouldn’t simply inject its own ads into all pages.
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Re:Explanation of the state of uBlock Origin and other block... by TylerE on Friday September 20, 2019 @12:20PM (#21028357)
There's really nothing at all preventing Chrome from doing that today if they wished... they can manipulate the page before and after the Adblocker sees it.
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Re:Explanation of the state of uBlock Origin and other block... by zie on Friday September 20, 2019 @10:14AM (#21026894)
SHHH!!! That's for Chrome 100 ;P

I agree it's totally possible they would do that, but one could figure it out pretty easily with a touch of detective work.

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Re:Explanation of the state of uBlock Origin and other block... by cptskippy on Friday September 20, 2019 @10:39AM (#21027160)
And then what? Google will say that it's protecting critical functions from breaking and to piss off. Suddenly Google is a monopoly in the ad space because they have the predominant browser and let through only their ads.
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Re:Explanation of the state of uBlock Origin and other block... by zie on Friday September 20, 2019 @11:41AM (#21027918)
they arguably are effectively a monopoly now. Them doing things like this isn't remotely new. They just got caught tracking everyone's smart TV usage. Nothing will happen to them until:

1) the Government decides to intervene.

2) Users give up and start using different services.

I'm pushing for #2, but then I switched off like a decade ago, when I saw the writing on the wall.

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Re:Explanation of the state of uBlock Origin and other block... by ummonk on Friday September 20, 2019 @12:53PM (#21028790)
Were they tracking smart tv usage or were smart tv manufacturers using google apis to store their tracking data?
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Re:Explanation of the state of uBlock Origin and other block... by zie on Friday September 20, 2019 @02:44PM (#21029926)
Both it seems:

"The most prevalent tracker, Google's doubleclick.net, showed up in 975 of the top 1,000 Roku channels, with Google analytics trackers showing up in 360, the researchers found." - https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2019/09/studies-google-n...

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Re:Explanation of the state of uBlock Origin and other block... by ryandrake on Friday September 20, 2019 @10:39AM (#21027170)
Adblocker apps/extensions don't require that assurance. The user requires this assurance, and if the browser ignores the user's wishes, the browser is the application that should be held accountable by users.
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Re:Explanation of the state of uBlock Origin and other block... by cptskippy on Friday September 20, 2019 @11:08AM (#21027519)
How is the user to know if it's the AdBlocker or the Browser though? It's a he-said-she-said kind of situation with the AdBlocker and the Browser potentially pointing the finger at each other.

This setup gives the Browser/Maker plausible deniability when they act badly.

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Re:Explanation of the state of uBlock Origin and other block... by saagarjha on Friday September 20, 2019 @12:21PM (#21028367)
Browsers and extensions aren't black boxes; it's easy to inspect them for this kind of behavior.
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