Explanation of the state of uBlock Origin and other blockers for Safari

Re:Explanation of the state of uBlock Origin and other block... by mumblemumble on Friday September 20, 2019 @08:24AM (#21025860)

This was true during an intermediate period where all browsers were more-or-less equivalent. It wasn't true before then, when many sites were designed with Internet Explorer in mind, and tended to work less well on other browsers. I don't think it will be true now, either, now that most sites are designed with Chrome in mind, and tend to work less well on other browsers.

The big difference is that the functionality problems 20 years ago were easier to explain, and therefore easier to get people upset about. It's a lot easier to weave a compelling political story about straight-up incompatibility than it is to weave one about degraded performance due to differing just-in-time compiler optimization behavior.

Also, we seem to be stuck in a situation where people are still so fixated on a monarch that hasn't been in power for over a decade that they maybe haven't been so concerned that the old monarch's overthrower has consolidated power to become a new monarch.

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Re:Explanation of the state of uBlock Origin and other block... by magashna on Friday September 20, 2019 @08:44AM (#21026047)

There seems to be this idea that some sites work worse with FF but in all the time Chrome has existed, I've never found any sites that didn't work with FF.

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Re:Explanation of the state of uBlock Origin and other block... by mumblemumble on Friday September 20, 2019 @08:55AM (#21026138)

I've never found any that don't work, but Firefox supports fewer "standards", so you can end up with a somewhat degraded experience on some sites. My own company's product, for example, has some janky bits on browsers other than Chrome. The performance is only a little bit behind on most benchmarks, but isn't anywhere near as fast for certain kinds of animation. It can be noticeable on sites that run a lot of animation. Like, say, sites with ads. Possibly only if you're using an older or less powerful computer. Which isn't how we of the orange header bar like to roll, but also isn't a terribly uncommon thing to do out there in the wider world.

(Scare quotes around "standards" because calling Chrome-only things standard nowadays seems a bit like calling AcitveX a standard 20 years ago.)

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Re:Explanation of the state of uBlock Origin and other block... by phinnaeus on Friday September 20, 2019 @08:53AM (#21026120)

I use Chrome almost exclusively at work, Firefox on my gaming computer, and Safari on my personal MacBook. Other than extensions on Safari and minor differences in keyboard shortcuts, I don't really notice the differences.

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Re:Explanation of the state of uBlock Origin and other block... by leereeves on Friday September 20, 2019 @08:52AM (#21026118)

I agree. I've never encountered a site that didn't work in FF.

But I have seen sites that don't work in Safari.

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Re:Explanation of the state of uBlock Origin and other block... by viraptor on Friday September 20, 2019 @09:11AM (#21026268)

zoom web client doesn't do audio on ff. It's a bit of a special case and they do have a dedicated app, so it's not the end of the world.

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Re:Explanation of the state of uBlock Origin and other block... by kvark on Friday September 20, 2019 @12:01PM (#21028157)

Since Mozilla has switched to Zoom internally as of recent, I'd be surprised if this compatibility issue stays unfixed for long.

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Re:Explanation of the state of uBlock Origin and other block... by scrollaway on Friday September 20, 2019 @09:14AM (#21026292)

I was planning to switch back to Firefox; this would actually be a dealbreaker for me.

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Re:Explanation of the state of uBlock Origin and other block... by viraptor on Friday September 20, 2019 @09:37AM (#21026505)

I have chromium for that one site. Everything else is in ff. You can switch for a single site, it's not painful.

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Re:Explanation of the state of uBlock Origin and other block... by asdff on Monday September 23, 2019 @03:33AM (#21046689)

Maybe it's ublock, but I've had plenty of sites that just don't work on firefox. barclaycard, blackboard, and the schools web print system (dts) are my recent examples.

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Re:Explanation of the state of uBlock Origin and other block... by istjohn on Friday September 20, 2019 @09:23AM (#21026374)

I have issues with Google properties on Firefox.

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Re:Explanation of the state of uBlock Origin and other block... by bryanlarsen on Friday September 20, 2019 @09:28AM (#21026425)

> I've never found any sites that didn't work with FF.

Twitter doesn't work very well on Firefox for Android.

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Re:Explanation of the state of uBlock Origin and other block... by buzer on Friday September 20, 2019 @09:02AM (#21026198)

coda.io. https://community.coda.io/t/firefox-support/8395/3

That's the only one I remember encountering.

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Re:Explanation of the state of uBlock Origin and other block... by skrebbel on Friday September 20, 2019 @09:45AM (#21026581)

People keep repeating this on HN but I've been on Firefox for about a year no and everything just works.

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