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Re:KaiOS by mikece on Wednesday September 18, 2019 @07:33AM (#21004177)
While I really like the idea of a feature phone that can has some smarts, can function as a WiFi hotspot, and has battery life to allow charging only once a week, if there's no ability to write apps that are compiled to binary code then I have to wonder how much the JavaScript VM powering aps is going to drain the battery compared to an app that was written in C/C++.
Re:KaiOS by celliopia on Wednesday September 18, 2019 @07:39AM (#21004229)
Given the target devices for KaiOS, wouldn't AOT compiled apps have the problem of not being sure which CPU will be supported? It's probably not as big of an issue today but at the inexpensive, low-power side of the spectrum there might be a diversity of CPUs within a year or two... is KaiOS going to host compiler services in the cloud to dynamically compile apps for the myriad possible CPUs out there? While consuming more battery, using JavaScript to power the apps not only lowers the barrier to entry for app developers but creates a common target for all hardware vendors to support. That said, I do like the idea of these devices having the ability to run native code as that would get more like from the battery.
Re:KaiOS by CoolGuySteve on Wednesday September 18, 2019 @08:34AM (#21004658)
Probably more like what happened on Symbian where the market fragmented but nobody cared as most apps weren’t very compelling.
Re:KaiOS by opencl on Wednesday September 18, 2019 @09:05AM (#21004949)
Doesn't stop people from shipping native binaries on Android. Developers who care about the 0.1% of the market not using ARM just include multiple binaries.
Re:KaiOS by pjmlp on Wednesday September 18, 2019 @09:41AM (#21005312)
There is always the option to JIT cache. It doesn't need to be always compiled from scratch.

Now if they bother with such optimization is another matter.

Re:KaiOS by captn3m0 on Wednesday September 18, 2019 @08:35AM (#21004662)
I'm very tempted to buy Nokia 8770, but I can't confirm it supports a WiFi hotspot.
Re:KaiOS by mikece on Wednesday September 18, 2019 @09:15AM (#21005048)
Did you type the number wrong? I'm not finding an 8770. GSMArena.com is the place to look for specs, in my opinion.

https://www.gsmarena.com/res.php3?sSearch=nokia+8770

Re:KaiOS by captn3m0 on Wednesday September 18, 2019 @11:38AM (#21006494)
I was wrong. I meant the 8810 - The Banana phone.
Re:KaiOS by ct0 on Wednesday September 18, 2019 @11:38AM (#21006490)
must be talking about the 8110
Re:KaiOS by squarefoot on Wednesday September 18, 2019 @03:44PM (#21009216)
I just did a search on Ebay for the 8110 and found a shop in the UK asking more than €200 for it plus shipping. I guess the shop owner reads HN:).
Re:KaiOS by naraic0o on Wednesday September 18, 2019 @04:41PM (#21009925)
you can buy them on amazon uk for around £50
Re:KaiOS by squarefoot on Thursday September 19, 2019 @05:22AM (#21014609)
The Ebay seller says they're "unlocked" for use in EU. My concern was that the cheaper ones were imported and wouldn't work on European GSM (I still use it) and 3/4G networks.
Re:KaiOS by captn3m0 on Wednesday September 18, 2019 @03:39PM (#21009165)
Yes
Re:KaiOS by captn3m0 on Wednesday September 18, 2019 @04:58PM (#21010121)
Update: Found the manual online and it mentions wifi hotspot support: https://www.nokia.com/phones/en_lb/support/api/pdf/nokia-811... (Page 21)