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Re:Where you are born is more predictive of your future than... by eevilspock on Tuesday September 17, 2019 @11:01AM (#20995953)
> more men are victims of violent crime

Seriously?

Have you looked at the percentage of women who have experienced sexual harassment or assault in their life?

Do you understand what it is like to be a woman, to have to look over your shoulder so much of the time, the fear and anxiety that follows you or prevents you from walking alone at night or in a strange place?

How many women have you talked to?

The violent crime you speak of is male on male. The oppressive omnipresent threat of violence against women is by men. The population of male victims of violent crimes has a high degree of overlap with the population of perpetrators of violent crime (i.e. Your statement is like saying men are greater victims of war, when it is fact men exclusively who have perpetrated those very wars).

Re:Where you are born is more predictive of your future than... by james_s_tayler on Tuesday September 17, 2019 @11:15AM (#20996147)
>Do you understand what it is like to be a woman, to have to look over your shoulder so much of the time, the fear and anxiety that follows you or prevents you from walking alone at night or in a strange place?

I like how women think this uniquely applies to them.

As if all men are just brimming with confidence, completely unafraid and always ready to do battle. As if they can walk past a hooded figure on a dark street and physiologically remaining completely unaffected.

Re:Where you are born is more predictive of your future than... by carti on Tuesday September 17, 2019 @12:53PM (#20997361)
If you can't recognize the difference, you aren't talking with or listening to enough women in your circle about this sort of thing. I would highly encourage you to do so.

Regardless, the parent is not saying that men don't also experience the fear of violence.

Re:Where you are born is more predictive of your future than... by james_s_tayler on Tuesday September 17, 2019 @04:23PM (#20999665)
I'm sorry but what's the difference?

The parent said "do you know?" Implying that as a male I had zero knowledge of what it's like to feel that way. Which implies that I have never felt that way. Which implies that whenever I'm in a situation that makes a woman feel that way, it doesn't make me feel that way.

I'm sorry but it does. So,yes I do know.

Is it worse for women? My assumption is at least 2x ~ 3x. The difference being when I walk past a shadowy figure in the street I mutter to myself "please don't kill me" while they think "OMG, please please please don't kill me".

The vectors point in exactly the same direction. The magnitude is what's different.

The original comment implied the vectors didn't even point in the same direction or had zero magnitude for men.

That's wrong.

Re:Where you are born is more predictive of your future than... by hope-striker on Tuesday September 17, 2019 @01:25PM (#20997730)
Honestly, I have no friends, so I'd really appreciate it if you could explain the difference as best as the Internet allows.
Re:Where you are born is more predictive of your future than... by eevilspock on Tuesday September 17, 2019 @03:07PM (#20998952)
It's best you ask some women you know in person (female colleagues at work, female friends of your friends, your sister(s), your mom), and listen to them in earnest.

You may make some female friends this way. Men who listen to women, who truly listen, are rare.

Re:Where you are born is more predictive of your future than... by theflyinghorse on Tuesday September 17, 2019 @11:27AM (#20996322)
I'm sorry, all that you said applies to men as well.

Besides, your statement about wars is outright insulting! You've degraded the male victims of war (of whom there are a lot more) entirely by shifting blame for violence on them. In most wars you'd get thrown in jail if you refuse to go and fight!

Re:Where you are born is more predictive of your future than... by carti on Tuesday September 17, 2019 @01:01PM (#20997440)
There is a difference. Please ask some women you know about this, as the parent suggested.
Re:Where you are born is more predictive of your future than... by theflyinghorse on Tuesday September 17, 2019 @01:34PM (#20997858)
Sounds like you've already done the legwork. Why won't you share how experiencing violence is drastically different between men and women.
Re:Where you are born is more predictive of your future than... by spodek on Tuesday September 17, 2019 @02:35PM (#20998604)
> Do you understand what it is like to be a woman, to have to look over your shoulder so much of the time, the fear and anxiety that follows you or prevents you from walking alone at night or in a strange place?

Do you understand what it's like to be a man? I was mugged five times as a boy and young man, including at knife point. Police have harassed me.

Are you suggesting it's more pleasant to be threatened with your life as a man than a woman?

If not, then I'll go with the numbers and not imply, as you do, that no man can understand about being a victim of violent crime.

Re:Where you are born is more predictive of your future than... by Smithalicious on Tuesday September 17, 2019 @11:51PM (#21002249)
> The violent crime you speak of is male on male.

If you get to use that as an argument, do I get to do the black on black crime thing?