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Re:HP printers try to send data back to HP about your device... by HenryBemis on Sunday September 15, 2019 @07:31PM (#20980095)
Former HP employee here. HP made and still makes great hardware products. Ink is the cash-cow and this won't change in the near future. The thing I always hated though was the bloatware. I remember that everyone I was buying a HP laptop, I would back-up the drivers (.inf), then remove all the JUNK, and then reinstall all the drivers. JUST the drivers.

Fortunately for me I have the skills to do so. Unfortunately the majority of users have to suffer the bloatware and weep for the lost CPU and RAM that garbage wastes.

Re:HP printers try to send data back to HP about your device... by edoceo on Sunday September 15, 2019 @08:41PM (#20980305)
Nope, the hardware was great, back in the 80s,90s then once Compaq was swallows, HP lost their way. The only same answer has been to avoided their products since 2003.

Check our Samsung or Brother for printers that don't involve bullshit. Any Asus beats any HP laptop and HP "server" gear, jajaja

Re:HP printers try to send data back to HP about your device... by daxorid on Sunday September 15, 2019 @08:47PM (#20980322)
> Any Asus beats any HP laptop

The HP Spectre line runs Linux out of the box with full device support. Asus is hit or miss.

Otherwise, yes, you're absolutely correct.

Re:HP printers try to send data back to HP about your device... by paulcarroty on Monday September 16, 2019 @05:56AM (#20982519)
> The HP Spectre line runs Linux out of the box

And guess most of HP ProBook line. Asus sucks here, plus zero chances to get any support.

Re:HP printers try to send data back to HP about your device... by edoceo on Sunday September 15, 2019 @08:51PM (#20980337)
Oh, yes, I fought for days with the trackpad on my Asus S410U. I forgot about that.
Re:HP printers try to send data back to HP about your device... by mpol on Monday September 16, 2019 @03:35AM (#20981853)
Samsung printers are owned by HP now. Expect the same within some time.
Re:HP printers try to send data back to HP about your device... by techntoke on Monday September 16, 2019 @12:16AM (#20981050)
Using the manufacturer-provided drivers will usually result in junk as well. It is always best to know your hardware and try to find the drivers from each hardware vendor, or sometimes Windows 10 drivers work well too. You can usually get this info from the device hardware vendor ID and product ID if you're using Windows. With Linux, pretty much everything is automatically packaged with the kernel.
Re:HP printers try to send data back to HP about your device... by JohnFen on Monday September 16, 2019 @01:43PM (#20986650)
This. I simply don't trust manufacturer-provided drivers.
Re:HP printers try to send data back to HP about your device... by MrMember on Monday September 16, 2019 @12:47PM (#20985956)
In college I worked at the computer support desk for students. Certain models of HP laptops were notorious for the wifi module failing, conveniently just outside of the warranty period. I would never trust HP hardware.