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Re:HP printers try to send data back to HP about your device... by chiph on Sunday September 15, 2019 @05:39PM (#20979638)
I gave up on them when the inkjet I had bought produced a small mountain of dried ink inside it with it's constant cleaning cycles. There was more money in that dried ink than I had paid for the printer.

This was very a different experience from the monochrome DeskJet 500 that was such a workhorse. And the 7470A plotter that dad used for over a decade.

Re:HP printers try to send data back to HP about your device... by imglorp on Sunday September 15, 2019 @06:07PM (#20979748)
If you don't need color, try a laser printer. Toner doesn't dry out; you only pay for what you actually print.
Re:HP printers try to send data back to HP about your device... by userbinator on Sunday September 15, 2019 @10:37PM (#20980689)
Toner doesn't dry out; you only pay for what you actually print.

Beware, however, that if you live in a very humid climate, toner will clump easily. I suspect this is why inkjets are very common in Southeast Asia, whereas lasers are not as popular there.

Re:HP printers try to send data back to HP about your device... by dvdkhlng on Monday September 16, 2019 @03:45AM (#20981896)
One needs to keep in mind that toner dust and ozone may pose a health risk when printers are used close to to where people live/work.

Many printer manufacturers nowadays sell inkjet printers with laser-printer like operating costs, where ink is dirt-cheap, but the printer is correspondingly more expensive. Google for Epson EcoTank or Brother Inkvestment.

Re:HP printers try to send data back to HP about your device... by YuryGv on Monday September 16, 2019 @11:58AM (#20985399)
Dust from toner clearly provokes cancer. You need to be careful for those who have a lot of printer work.
Re:HP printers try to send data back to HP about your device... by ars on Sunday September 15, 2019 @06:32PM (#20979851)
Get a laser printer EVEN if you need color.

Color laser printers are slow, but not expensive.

Re:HP printers try to send data back to HP about your device... by chiph on Sunday September 15, 2019 @06:20PM (#20979796)
That's what I did. Got a Brother HL-5370DW and it's been excellent.
Re:HP printers try to send data back to HP about your device... by dngray on Sunday September 15, 2019 @07:20PM (#20980038)
I have the HL-L2360D and it's been great. I love the IPP Everywhere drivers and don't have to worry about anything in particular anymore.

After this I would only get a printer which has IPP Everywhere or at least is supported by foomatic-db. hplip can get lost.

I can also get non Brother branded cartridges as they don't make a habit out of selling the printer so cheap that they have to then rape you on the price of the cartridges when it's time to refill.

The non-Brother branded cartridges work just as well as the official ones and I can go into any major office chain and buy them off the shelf.

Re:HP printers try to send data back to HP about your device... by zrobotics on Sunday September 15, 2019 @06:40PM (#20979883)
Second this- the really great thing about the brother lasers is awesome Linux driver support. The install process was simpler on Debian than even the windows setup, which is certainly not the case for HP gear (hplip, the less I think about it the happier I am).
Re:HP printers try to send data back to HP about your device... by jschwartzi on Sunday September 15, 2019 @07:18PM (#20980033)
What? I've never had any issues with my HP laser printer in Linux.

I can attest that in Windows 10 I always have to delete and re-add the network printer whenever I want to print something because apparently being offline even once is enough of an upset to send the Windows printing system into paroxysms of fear, where it will tremble mightily, unable to re-try in less than 20 minutes. Don't get me started on how it's impossible to share a cellular connection over Ethernet because plugging Ethernet in turns the cell connection off to "save power" either. That little turd of a feature cost me a couple hours last week.

Re:HP printers try to send data back to HP about your device... by stjohnswarts on Sunday September 15, 2019 @08:38PM (#20980297)
Same here never had a problem with my HP laser printers on linux
Re:HP printers try to send data back to HP about your device... by dbcurtis on Sunday September 15, 2019 @07:02PM (#20979973)
This, and for most Brother printers there is a page counter bypass for toner carts.
Re:HP printers try to send data back to HP about your device... by chopin on Monday September 16, 2019 @04:28AM (#20982099)
HP has this as well for the printers I have.
Re:HP printers try to send data back to HP about your device... by fred_is_fred on Tuesday September 17, 2019 @03:24PM (#20999093)
I have a color laser printer that's 4+ years old, was cheap, and still works great. Color laser is not expensive like it once was.
Re:HP printers try to send data back to HP about your device... by aj7 on Monday September 16, 2019 @05:44AM (#20982439)
I once briefly owned an HP inkjet printer that I bought new for some ridiculously cheap price. When I found out what inkjet cartridges cost, I unplugged it, walked to that little room by the elevator in my high rise, and threw it down the dumpster chute.