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Re:Toyota is trying to put solar panels on a Prius to charge... by jdnenej on Friday September 13, 2019 @04:48AM (#20960331)
It doesn't get around the fact that it still makes way more sense to put those panels on your house roof and charge from that. The house roof is in direct sunlight for much longer than a car.
Re:Toyota is trying to put solar panels on a Prius to charge... by masklinn on Friday September 13, 2019 @07:41AM (#20961168)
> It doesn't get around the fact that it still makes way more sense to put those panels on your house roof and charge from that.

On a car it also acts as a range extender and emergency backup (if you're out of battery and the car is engineered for, you can crawl along at the charge rate or wait a bit for a better charge). It's not great, but being to "walk" with your car might save your ass.

And if the car is designed around this idea (à la lightyear one), you can increase things further (the LY1 folks advertise a solar charge rate of up to 7.5mi/h WLTP with no A/C).

Re:Toyota is trying to put solar panels on a Prius to charge... by bloak on Friday September 13, 2019 @08:28AM (#20961458)
If solar panels are the bottleneck then they shouldn't be wasted on people's rooves, either. They should put them in a big field where the electricity company can point them in the optimal direction, perhaps with a device to redirect them during the day, or mirrors, and look after them properly: clean them, if that helps, or whatever.
Re:Toyota is trying to put solar panels on a Prius to charge... by Retric on Friday September 13, 2019 @09:29AM (#20961923)
Tracking and concentration is not cost effective, so it’s just a tilt advantage.

Solar panels in a remote location need to be converted from DC to AC for transmission, then transmitted long distances with associated losses, then converted to DC again to charge the car, stored in batteries in the car with associated losses. A solar roof could actually be a net gain assuming the energy is used while the car is in motion, and it’s used near the equator so no tilt required.

Re:Toyota is trying to put solar panels on a Prius to charge... by kalleboo on Friday September 13, 2019 @05:12AM (#20960449)
That is an excellent point - if you have a house. It might make more sense for people who have to live with streetside parking?
Re:Toyota is trying to put solar panels on a Prius to charge... by Liquid_Fire on Friday September 13, 2019 @05:29AM (#20960521)
Why not do both?
Re:Toyota is trying to put solar panels on a Prius to charge... by dahfizz on Friday September 13, 2019 @07:38AM (#20961150)
Because resources are scarce. If solar panels were free, then yeah let's plaster them everywhere. But let's start with where they make the most difference.
Re:Toyota is trying to put solar panels on a Prius to charge... by jdnenej on Friday September 13, 2019 @05:52AM (#20960612)
Because very few people have covered every last spot on their roof so you would be designing a product suitable for very few people
Re:Toyota is trying to put solar panels on a Prius to charge... by Tade0 on Friday September 13, 2019 @06:45AM (#20960880)
Or for people who don't own a roof at all - plenty of such people in cities.
Re:Toyota is trying to put solar panels on a Prius to charge... by jdnenej on Friday September 13, 2019 @07:40AM (#20961164)
Those people also have their cars in multi level car parks with no sun so that doesn't work for them either. In that case they would be better having the car park have solar and the local government building solar farms. A panel on something almost always undercover makes no sense.
Re:Toyota is trying to put solar panels on a Prius to charge... by wongarsu on Friday September 13, 2019 @08:09AM (#20961337)
I live in an average residential street in Europe full of 3 story residential houses. Our house with 6 apartments has 3 garages, the majority park on the street.

Sure, the government or the electricity company could just install car chargers and put a solar plant to power that in some rural area. But if I want something now then buying a car is much simpler than lobbying for that.

Re:Toyota is trying to put solar panels on a Prius to charge... by kungtotte on Friday September 13, 2019 @06:24AM (#20960755)
Very few people have electric cars to begin with, and they're really expensive compared to ICE vehicles so you're already talking about a demographic that's demonstrated a willingness to pay a premium for driving an electric car.

If Tesla offered a "Solar Panel Kit" that made their cars even a few percent more efficient it would sell like hot cakes.

Re:Toyota is trying to put solar panels on a Prius to charge... by Amygaz on Friday September 13, 2019 @06:51AM (#20960906)
And on every parking lots...