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Re:Turn off DoH, Firefox by dredmorbius on Thursday September 12, 2019 @07:42AM (#20950326)
Your ISP is subject to the same FISA warrant threat.

If it's one of the large monopoly providers, it's as much a one-stop-shop as Cloudfront is.

Re:Turn off DoH, Firefox by TeMPOraL on Thursday September 12, 2019 @07:57AM (#20950416)
Not outside the US. Now unless Mozilla decides to pick a different DoH party for deployment in EU, the problem will come back.
Re:Turn off DoH, Firefox by dredmorbius on Thursday September 12, 2019 @08:00AM (#20950440)
Fair point. I'd meant to add "inside the US". The warrant hypo strongly implies this, though as you note, needn't necessarily.

Though outside the US, the NSA doesn't require a FISA warrant to intercept data, nor does it face any US legal restrictions on doing so.

Re:Turn off DoH, Firefox by dangerface on Thursday September 12, 2019 @09:34AM (#20951237)
The internet is as much of a monopoly outside of the US for example Tiscali in Europe. We have the same kangaroo courts when it comes to getting warrants to invade people privacy.

At least from a general perspective I don't see a big difference.

Re:Turn off DoH, Firefox by icebraining on Thursday September 12, 2019 @09:44AM (#20951347)
But it's not one or the other; an EU court will make a warrant for the ISP traffic data, and an US court for the DNS requests. You become vulnerable to both.
Re:Turn off DoH, Firefox by vsl on Friday September 13, 2019 @01:18AM (#20959396)
1.1.1.1 operates on edges of CloudFlare CDN - EU users will be handled by EU DNS server. And there’s no logging.
Re:Turn off DoH, Firefox by icebraining on Sunday September 15, 2019 @04:51AM (#20976248)
Cloudflare is still a US company. Do you have any FISA jurisprudence showing that simply running the server on another country makes it immune to warrants?

> And there’s no logging.

Until the courts say there must be.