Re:Turn off DoH, Firefox
by dredmorbius on Thursday September 12, 2019 @07:42AM
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Your ISP is subject to the same FISA warrant threat.
If it's one of the large monopoly providers, it's as much a one-stop-shop as Cloudfront is.
Not outside the US. Now unless Mozilla decides to pick a different DoH party for deployment in EU, the problem will come back.
Re:Turn off DoH, Firefox
by dredmorbius on Thursday September 12, 2019 @08:00AM
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Fair point. I'd meant to add "inside the US". The warrant hypo strongly implies this, though as you note, needn't necessarily.
Though outside the US, the NSA doesn't require a FISA warrant to intercept data, nor does it face any US legal restrictions on doing so.
Re:Turn off DoH, Firefox
by dangerface on Thursday September 12, 2019 @09:34AM
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The internet is as much of a monopoly outside of the US for example Tiscali in Europe. We have the same kangaroo courts when it comes to getting warrants to invade people privacy.
At least from a general perspective I don't see a big difference.
Re:Turn off DoH, Firefox
by icebraining on Thursday September 12, 2019 @09:44AM
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But it's not one or the other; an EU court will make a warrant for the ISP traffic data, and an US court for the DNS requests. You become vulnerable to both.
1.1.1.1 operates on edges of CloudFlare CDN - EU users will be handled by EU DNS server. And there’s no logging.
Re:Turn off DoH, Firefox
by icebraining on Sunday September 15, 2019 @04:51AM
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Cloudflare is still a US company. Do you have any FISA jurisprudence showing that simply running the server on another country makes it immune to warrants?
> And there’s no logging.
Until the courts say there must be.
You are not permitted to hand-wave corrupt government interception or rubberhosing of civilian data as "wrong threat model." These technologies are central to, and must be focused specifically on, protecting all civilian data from all governments. That is the primary purpose of all privacy systems. Not to protect you from coffee-shop denizens trying to snoop which dating sites you use.