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Re:California passes bill that classifies gig economy worker... by edouard-harris on Wednesday September 11, 2019 @08:41AM (#20939410)
The bill makes an exception for engineers, among other professions:

> An individual who holds an active license from the State of California and is practicing one of the following recognized professions: lawyer, architect, engineer, private investigator, or accountant.

Re:California passes bill that classifies gig economy worker... by throwaway_law on Wednesday September 11, 2019 @08:50AM (#20939488)
That would not apply to software developers, even if they call themselves engineers, software developers are not licensed professional engineers (i.e. civil engineers).

For example a Software Developer can't start a professional corporation in California like a lawyer, architect, civil engineer, accountant etc...

Re:California passes bill that classifies gig economy worker... by csunbird on Wednesday September 11, 2019 @10:28AM (#20940557)
unless they have a college degree
Re:California passes bill that classifies gig economy worker... by throwaway_law on Wednesday September 11, 2019 @10:46AM (#20940735)
a College degree != a professional license
Re:California passes bill that classifies gig economy worker... by blackflame7000 on Wednesday September 11, 2019 @03:04PM (#20943575)
The American National Society of Professional Engineers provides a model law and lobbies legislatures to adopt occupational licensing regulations. The model law requires:

1) a four-year degree from a university program accredited by the Engineering Accreditation Committee (EAC) of the Accreditation Board for Engineering and Technology (ABET),

2) an eight-hour examination on the fundamentals of engineering (FE) usually taken in the senior year of college,

3) four years of acceptable experience,

4) a second examination on principles and practice

5) written recommendations from other professional engineers.

Re:California passes bill that classifies gig economy worker... by adwww on Wednesday September 11, 2019 @08:53AM (#20939525)
Is a software engineer really a recognised proffesion in CA?

It's a proffesional level job, but reconisation usually means being a member of some sort of proffesional body - no idea what the software one of those would be?

Re:California passes bill that classifies gig economy worker... by blackflame7000 on Wednesday September 11, 2019 @03:02PM (#20943558)
I think they only have it in Texas as of now
Re:California passes bill that classifies gig economy worker... by pishpash on Wednesday September 11, 2019 @08:51AM (#20939493)
Software "engineer" is not a (licensed) engineer, for the hundredth time.
Re:California passes bill that classifies gig economy worker... by PorterDuff on Wednesday September 11, 2019 @10:46AM (#20940734)
It's a shame that doesn't exist. I've always thought you could make an especially strong argument for licensing for embedded software people, for many of the same reasons that a PE is licensed.

It wouldn't be a requirement for a job necessarily, but not a bad thing to have.

Re:California passes bill that classifies gig economy worker... by chroma on Wednesday September 11, 2019 @12:27PM (#20941920)
I doubt such a certification would have any correlation with ability. Maybe the platonic ideal of training and testing that you're thinking of, but not a certification written by the US government. Even competent parts of the government like NIST take forever to update their standards. It would be worse for a licensing bureau with practically no in-house software expertise.
Re:California passes bill that classifies gig economy worker... by 0xffff2 on Wednesday September 11, 2019 @01:55PM (#20942868)
You can get a computer engineering PE, which would probably be appropriate for the vast majority of embedded software developers. There was a software PE for a few years, but my understanding is that it was dropped for lack of interest.