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Re:It Shouldn't Be This Hard to Responsibly Fly a Drone by ajross on Sunday September 08, 2019 @01:08PM (#20911761)
This is for sure going to be unpopular, but folks here need to hear it:

The reason for the byzantine complexity about drone regulation isn't that some Big Government is injecting its ham-fisted regulatory appendages into a problem that it doesn't understand.

It's that, for the most part, no one wants your drones in the air at all. People don't like these things. They're noisy. They're scary. Their operators tend to be pushy jerks more often than not. They just aren't what a median voter wants to see on a nice sunny afternoon in the park or trail or whatever. And those voters governments, at all levels, are responding to that desire.

Basically: drone operators are the mid-life-nerd-crisis version of skate punks. No one wants them hanging around either, and skateboarding regulation is at least as complicated as drone rules.

Re:It Shouldn't Be This Hard to Responsibly Fly a Drone by dang on Sunday September 08, 2019 @02:54PM (#20912568)
This post would be much better with just the middle two paragraphs, which make your point just fine.

The first paragraph is supercilious baiting and the second is a snarky putdown. Can you please not do such things on HN? We've had to ask you this repeatedly.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re:It Shouldn't Be This Hard to Responsibly Fly a Drone by daenz on Sunday September 08, 2019 @01:18PM (#20911844)
>They're noisy. They're scary. Their operators tend to be pushy jerks more often than not.

This reads like the kind of pushback against the horseless carriage.

>Chicagoans called automobiles "buzz wagons" and "devil wagons." Reckless drivers were "scorchers," a word that originally described speeding bicyclists in the 1890s. "Auto Scorchers a Terror," the Tribune declared in 1902 — at a time when about 800 people in a city of 1.7 million had automobile licenses.

>The mayor, an avid bicyclist, threatened to crack down on motorists. "There are a number of young fools, who have more money than brains, who are running these automobiles over the boulevards at express time speed and they are going to get into trouble," Harrison said.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-chicago-auto-show-ear...

Re:It Shouldn't Be This Hard to Responsibly Fly a Drone by rhacker on Sunday September 08, 2019 @01:31PM (#20911939)
Have you HEARD the pushback of the horseless carriage lately, at least specifically on HN? It's pretty immense. Also that argument is pretty bad. There is a huge utility in driving. I allow you to drive because I need to drive too.

I allow you to drone because I need to drone too (doesn't quite add up to the general population, no?)

Re:It Shouldn't Be This Hard to Responsibly Fly a Drone by daenz on Sunday September 08, 2019 @03:12PM (#20912687)
>Also that argument is pretty bad. There is a huge utility in driving. I allow you to drive because I need to drive too.

That's not the way it was when the automobile was first introduced. The general public argued against its utility, and made arguments that it was far more of a nuisance than anything else.

We're still in the infancy of the utility of personal drone devices.

Re:It Shouldn't Be This Hard to Responsibly Fly a Drone by ghaff on Sunday September 08, 2019 @04:01PM (#20913030)
What dang said. But I see a lot of similarities to jet skis when they were more widespread. About the only people who wanted them around—outside of some fairly specific settings where they were either needed or loud powerboats were already widely accepted—were other jet skiers. I saw more than one deliberate confrontation with a ranger at a state or local park.
Re:It Shouldn't Be This Hard to Responsibly Fly a Drone by LocalH on Sunday September 08, 2019 @01:11PM (#20911780)
So basically, NIMBY.
Re:It Shouldn't Be This Hard to Responsibly Fly a Drone by eirki on Sunday September 08, 2019 @02:20PM (#20912300)
Not exactly. NIMBY "carries the connotation that such residents are only opposing the development because it is close to them and that they would tolerate or support it if it were built farther away." (Wikipedia)

Whereas drones, people just don't like them at all.

Re:It Shouldn't Be This Hard to Responsibly Fly a Drone by ghaff on Sunday September 08, 2019 @04:03PM (#20913038)
NIMBY has evolved into this catchphrase that means people who don’t want what I want.
Re:It Shouldn't Be This Hard to Responsibly Fly a Drone by greenhatman on Sunday September 08, 2019 @01:18PM (#20911842)
I just had a neighbour fly their drone outside my window. It's really noisy and kind of causes anxiety.

So you can call it what you want, but I don't want it near me.

I'll give them a pass this once. Maybe it's new and they just wanted to try it out. But I'm definitely going to take steps to remove it if I hear it again.

Re:It Shouldn't Be This Hard to Responsibly Fly a Drone by sangerSCB on Sunday September 08, 2019 @01:15PM (#20911812)
Yes, exactly. Even people that like drones don't want a drone hanging out over their back yard.
Re:It Shouldn't Be This Hard to Responsibly Fly a Drone by rhacker on Sunday September 08, 2019 @01:36PM (#20911978)
I'm also guessing a large population of drone owners first reaction to seeing someone else flying one was: They're going to lose that thing and it's going to junk up the forest.

After buying the done: Let's go fly this in the forest!

Re:It Shouldn't Be This Hard to Responsibly Fly a Drone by madamelic on Sunday September 08, 2019 @06:08PM (#20913749)
> Even people that like drones don't want a drone hanging out over their back yard.

Sounds like that is a person problem, not a drone problem. That hypothetical person is a creep, drone or no drone.