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Re:Why Americans pay more for lunch than Britons do by mattlondon on Saturday September 07, 2019 @10:12AM (#20903849)
It is a huge pain in the UK and is rigidly adhered to.

Most of the "large" shops (I think there is a square-footage cutoff point) and shopping centres/malls must only open for 6 hours on a Sunday. So the normally 24/7 huge supermarkets that are the size of several football pitches and are usually packed full of people are forced to shut. This means that everyone needs to get out in the 6 hour window, so traffic is insane and the shops themselves are insane because all the shopping that normally happens spread across 24 hours has to be jammed into 6 hours. It is really annoying.

Smaller shops are allowed to stay open, so in the UK we now have a lot of smaller versions of the large 24/7 supermarket chain stores on high-streets that are typically open something like 8am-10pm/11pm/midnight 7 days a week. These are obviously much more popular than local businesses (cheaper, more reliable, loyalty schemes) so all small independent businesses (greengrocers, bakeries, small grocery stores, hardware stores, stationers, newsagents etc) are being forced out of business.

I wish that one day this silliness would be abolished.

Re:Why Americans pay more for lunch than Britons do by NeedMoreTea on Saturday September 07, 2019 @11:15AM (#20904247)
Being old and remembering before the massive liberalisation of Sunday trading, far from wishing away the token restrictions we have left, I wish we could go back to the old way. No opening on Sunday at all unless you're on the exemption list, as it used to be. So the takeaway, ice cream seller, corner shop etc were fine to open, typical high street shops were not. It's really annoying to have every day a normal day with no distinct break.

There was a distinct change of pace and feel, far, far less traffic on the roads, and a day free of annoying commerce everywhere. The whole world seemed quieter and lazier on Sunday, and thanks to the huge reduction of traffic, smelt nicer. It was the obvious day for the BBQ, day trip to the beach or theatre, the event in the local park, meet with friends etc.

I miss it.

Re:Why Americans pay more for lunch than Britons do by journalctl on Saturday September 07, 2019 @11:33AM (#20904393)
Can’t you do all of those things anyway? Or stay home? I don’t see why someone’s desire for a quaint Sunday should prevent me from doing my grocery shopping. What if Sunday is my only free day?
Re:Why Americans pay more for lunch than Britons do by NeedMoreTea on Saturday September 07, 2019 @11:55AM (#20904559)
Sure, except then it's without the actual benefits of a quiet day. The staff at those businesses, delivery drivers and what not are now working Sundays too. Lots of small businesses and self employed are pushed near to the point of no free day, just to compete and stay trading. Early closing day and closed Sunday is a forgotten concept.

There's plenty of families now where both partners getting common free days is a rarity, let alone organising group meets. You don't need a day for grocery shopping - just an hour or so. It's not like we found it difficult, or the public agitated for it before Sunday was added to supermarkets and Primark. It was just a concerted trade push for more commerce. :)

Re:Why Americans pay more for lunch than Britons do by deogeo on Saturday September 07, 2019 @01:23PM (#20905179)
Just like you can refuse to work weekends, or for below minimum wage.

But when your refusal puts you at a disadvantage compared to your competition, it eventually stops being a viable choice.

Re:Why Americans pay more for lunch than Britons do by pjc50 on Saturday September 07, 2019 @12:40PM (#20904859)
This approach relies on having a wife who is free to go shopping during the week.

Even the isle of Harris, which still maintains Sunday closing and the slow island pace of life, is changing away from it.

Re:Why Americans pay more for lunch than Britons do by NeedMoreTea on Saturday September 07, 2019 @08:57PM (#20907809)
Well when supermarkets all closed at 5:30, except one not very late night (7pm? 8pm?) a week certainly seemed to be. Current hours of 6 late nights probably to 9 or 10, and some 24/6 supermarkets, just restricting Sunday doesn't seem restrictive.

The Islands, and some parts of Wales, maybe other regions had a much more restrictive approach to Sundays than our old "fun permitted" rules, as a religious thing. They'd have more like a total shutdown, with dry Sundays and restriction of entertainments and travel. That may have changed, but they might still be far behind even our old Sunday trading rules!

Re:Why Americans pay more for lunch than Britons do by close04 on Saturday September 07, 2019 @01:30PM (#20905222)
Where I live Sunday is a dead day. People (husbands and wives seem equally qualified somehow) just resort to a super creative workaround: shopping on Saturdays and any other evening when coming back from work. I do most of the shopping on Saturday and any “instant demand” evenings on my way home.

And I was kind of annoyed when I realized how Sunday works here but came to realize other people want their Sundays free and quiet just as I do. Most people who really need to buy whatever on a Sunday would be screaming the loudest if asked to work Sundays.

Re:Why Americans pay more for lunch than Britons do by deogeo on Saturday September 07, 2019 @01:24PM (#20905190)
> This approach relies on having a wife who is free to go shopping during the week.

Or you can stop at a store on your way back from work...

Re:Why Americans pay more for lunch than Britons do by CalRobert on Saturday September 07, 2019 @06:32PM (#20907068)
I spent a few years as a member of a church that took the sabbath (Friday night to Saturday night) seriously. Having a day where you just. did. not. work (and didn't make other people work for you), was honestly pretty great. Great day to go to the beach, hang out, bbq, hike, etc.

I left the church but really miss that aspect of it.

Re:Why Americans pay more for lunch than Britons do by urbanjunkie on Saturday September 07, 2019 @11:17AM (#20904269)
No, it was shit. Completely and totally shit.
Re:Why Americans pay more for lunch than Britons do by amaccuish on Saturday September 07, 2019 @12:50PM (#20904927)
I agree. When I need a particular screwdriver or cable for a weekend project, I don't want to have to wait till next Saturday when I'm free.
Re:Why Americans pay more for lunch than Britons do by yarbas89 on Saturday September 07, 2019 @11:00AM (#20904140)
This only applies to England, not the whole of the UK. For example in Scotland, Sunday trading is not restricted in any way whatsoever.
Re:Why Americans pay more for lunch than Britons do by zeristor on Sunday September 08, 2019 @04:02PM (#20913034)
Perhaps not incidentally there's no double bank holiday weekend over Easter. I had lectures on a Bank Holiday Monday which in England generally means everything is shut.

I don't know how much longer this Christian stranglehold will have on England.

Re:Why Americans pay more for lunch than Britons do by yarbas89 on Monday September 09, 2019 @06:35PM (#20923227)
Yeah,.the majority of the bank holidays in Scotland are different too and some of them aren't even actual holidays by law. As in some companies will continue trading as it's not restricted. For example, one of the companies I've worked for actually rearranged bank holidays throughout their various office to ensure that some people were working within the company during any holiday.