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Re:Fancy Zones, a tiling window manager by tinus_hn on Friday September 06, 2019 @10:12AM (#20895777)
Windows doesn’t really have a window manager like the concept from X11. Basically the apps get messages and by using the standard libraries to handle a selection of messages, you get the behavior you’d expect of a Windows app, like the maximizing and minimizing, resizing and the Windows 10 specific zooming behavior. But there is little coordination and no separate process that draws window frames or something like that.

Also normal apps can’t send messages to elevated apps because there are ways to take over apps by sending the messages that you can’t really defend against.

Re:Fancy Zones, a tiling window manager by simias on Friday September 06, 2019 @10:24AM (#20895884)
Thank you for confirming my intuitions, I wasn't entirely sure if it was a hard limitation of the way Windows handled... windows or if it was just buggy software. So I guess this new WM suffers from the same limitations?

This experience actually made me wary of Wayland and other X11 replacements because, as far as I understand, they behave similarly. I could be completely wrong about that though because I still haven't completely figured out how Wayland actually works and every time I looked for infos on this particular topic I ended up more confused than when I started.

Re:Fancy Zones, a tiling window manager by jhoechtl on Friday September 06, 2019 @11:14AM (#20896362)
Sway is a Wayland only WM and doesn't suffer of any the shortcomings you describe.
Re:Fancy Zones, a tiling window manager by michaelmrose on Friday September 06, 2019 @01:51PM (#20897927)
Each wayland compositor is like a combination of X and a singular wm wherein the existing Wayland standard provides a framework for implementing rather than each person reinventing their own x alternative.
Re:Fancy Zones, a tiling window manager by jowsie on Friday September 06, 2019 @10:34AM (#20895981)
I can confirm PowerToys does need to run as admin for this functionality.
Re:Fancy Zones, a tiling window manager by contextfree on Friday September 06, 2019 @01:05PM (#20897431)
This is true for Win32 apps but window management of UWP apps is more coordinated, with a process that draws all the window frames.