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Re:An innovative approach to making electricity from the wind by tobinfricke on Thursday September 05, 2019 @11:10PM (#20892697)
Hello! I work at Makani (https://makanipower.com), which is mentioned in the article:

> Nor is it absolutely necessary that the electricity generation is done on the ground. Makani, a firm recently absorbed by Alphabet, Google’s parent company, has a different approach. It is lifting the generators into the sky, on board a pilotless aircraft with a wingspan of 26 metres. This craft has eight rotors, which act as propellers for take-off and landing. Once at operating altitude, however, they become miniature turbines. The electricity they generate (600 kilowatts at full capacity) is sent to the ground through a power line encased in a tether nearly half a kilometre long. Makani’s prototype has been tested in Hawaii and, later this year, a further series of tests from an oil platform off the coast of Norway are planned.

I'm excited to report that we really did pull off the offshore test a few months after this Economist story went to print.

Video of our recent offshore test: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6NW0QeKLZA (I know it almost looks like a rendering, but it's for real!)

And a company blog entry about the test: https://medium.com/makani-blog/makanis-airborne-wind-power-s...

Makani was funded in part by ARPA-E earlier in its existence, and they recently also made a video about Makani that might be of interest: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9Ly6na58e0

Re:An innovative approach to making electricity from the wind by gehsty on Friday September 06, 2019 @06:26AM (#20894447)
Hi, I work in offshore wind, subsea cabling, and I’m very interested in the cable tether that connects the kite to the base station and how you over come the issues with fatigue in the metallic elements of the cable, seems like this would be an interesting challenge as you try to balance weight / fatigue life / transmission capability.
Re:An innovative approach to making electricity from the wind by fraggle222 on Friday September 06, 2019 @04:30AM (#20894003)
Lol, these things are big !!! I had the scale all wrong. When I saw the pictures and video I thought this plane was something one or 2 people could hold (6-12 ft wing span). Then I saw people talking about 600kW and I was like, no freaking way can you get that much power from a plane that size.

Then I saw this: https://makanipower.com/makani/images/pages/technology/cta.j...

Re:An innovative approach to making electricity from the wind by imtringued on Friday September 06, 2019 @09:10AM (#20895272)
Compared to a single blade of a wind turbine it looks like a toy.
Re:An innovative approach to making electricity from the wind by woodandsteel on Friday September 06, 2019 @07:38PM (#20900827)
True, but they fly up where the wind is a lot stronger. Plus being much smaller means they might be cranked out in large numbers by a factory, which would make them relatively inexpensive, and also they don't have the major shipping problems that onshore turbines have.
Re:An innovative approach to making electricity from the wind by dr_dshiv on Friday September 06, 2019 @02:05AM (#20893437)
Will this eventually look like the city power supply in Big Hero Six?
Re:An innovative approach to making electricity from the wind by abdullahkhalids on Friday September 06, 2019 @01:10AM (#20893241)
How visible are these things from the ground?

Edit: Ignore the following line. It is too early in the morning.

--A single one is producing 600KW, so you need a few per household, and many thousands for a town.--

Re:An innovative approach to making electricity from the wind by abetusk on Friday September 06, 2019 @10:05AM (#20895720)
The average US residential annual electricity consumption is around 11 MWh or around 30kWh / day (11,000 kWh / 365 days) [1]. Assuming it produces 600kW for 24h or around 14MWh / day, this services around 480 homes (600 kWh * 24h / 30 (kWh / home)).

Their website explicitly says [2] (Overview 1.4):

> designed to transfer up to 600 kilowatts of electrical power—enough to power about 300 homes

[1] https://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.php?id=97&t=3

[2] https://makanipower.com/

Re:An innovative approach to making electricity from the wind by jdc on Friday September 06, 2019 @01:44AM (#20893368)
600KW / (1500W / microwave oven) = 400 microwave ovens

See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kilowatt_hour#Confusion_of_kil...

Re:An innovative approach to making electricity from the wind by rhinoceraptor on Friday September 06, 2019 @02:31PM (#20898385)
If you were standing directly under a 36 meter wingspan kite, 500 meters off the ground, it would be about 16 times as wide as the size of the moon.
Re:An innovative approach to making electricity from the wind by homero on Friday September 06, 2019 @04:58AM (#20894111)
That's kw hours. A big house running air conditioning is only 6kwh.
Re:An innovative approach to making electricity from the wind by dredmorbius on Friday September 06, 2019 @08:20AM (#20894962)
kWh is a unit of energy, that is, power over time, kW is a unit of power, that is, instantaneous energy.

Your car engine is rated in power (typically horsepower in the US, though kW is equivalent), your car fuel tank is rated in energy, that is kWh or joules.

Power determines how hard you can work. Energy determines for how long.

A big house running AC for a hour would give you a kWh number. The instantaneous load is measured in kW.

Re:An innovative approach to making electricity from the wind by homero on Thursday September 19, 2019 @10:50AM (#21016708)
Yeah but if it makes 600kw then it can do it for an hour since it's a generator not a battery