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Re:Civilizational Collapse, Part 4 by dredmorbius on Tuesday August 27, 2019 @11:53AM (#20810996)
Net of methane production from the cattle may affect that.

I don't know if it does or doesn't, but you might want to incorporate that into your model.

(NB: I'm not a vegitarian myself. I'm quite familiar with arguments. And have some familiarity with feedlots.)

Re:Civilizational Collapse, Part 4 by beat on Tuesday August 27, 2019 @11:59AM (#20811073)
If we didn't have cattle, would we have buffalo? Large wild herbivores in general? (Hmm, results of a quick google... there were 30-60m buffalo in the 19th century, and there are 94m cows in the US today. Given relative size, methane output has probably been more or less static over that period.)
Re:Civilizational Collapse, Part 4 by dredmorbius on Tuesday August 27, 2019 @01:16PM (#20812121)
That's a good question and I don't know.

The net terrestrial vertebrate biomass has shifted markedly over the past century (and undoubtedly over the previous 50,000 years of the Human Diaspora). What the pre-Columbian American bison population was I have no idea.

Total pre-industrial wildlife biomass ~10,000 BCE, by estimates, was ~1/7 that of the present, and smaller than humans in total:

http://peakoilbarrel.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Terrestr...

Re:Civilizational Collapse, Part 4 by pnutjam on Tuesday August 27, 2019 @01:45PM (#20812469)
Some people think buffalo herds exploded when native Americans died off.

The herds may not have been that big pre-columbus.