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Re:Show HN: I made a CRM system to make sales fun by lima on Monday August 26, 2019 @04:15PM (#20803285)
I tried Pipedrive but if you want to sync contacts with Google Contacts, they insist on accessing your mails as well. No way to reduce OAuth scope. To make matters worse, they use a third party API to do this, so you trust not just one, but two random companies with access to your email. This is an issue since email is not just used for marketing (think password reset tokens and so on).

Their support has been useless when I asked about this, insisting that their approach was perfectly secure and that their other customers don't care:

> We have now more than 85,000 companies from all over the World who have accepted and agreed with our Terms and Conditions and I am happy to say that we have never had any issues with these matters.

Re:Show HN: I made a CRM system to make sales fun by Sophistifunk on Monday August 26, 2019 @07:23PM (#20804723)
Isn't the whole genre of CRM kinda useless without access to your emails though?
Re:Show HN: I made a CRM system to make sales fun by lima on Tuesday August 27, 2019 @11:11AM (#20810404)
Not necessarily, many CRMs (including Pipedrive) allow you to forward mails to them.
Re:Show HN: I made a CRM system to make sales fun by drikerf on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @01:25AM (#20817011)
Yep! That's what I do with Wobaka too. You don't have to give access to your complete email. Just BCC or forward messages to a specific email.