In effect, Seattle is decriminalizing the use of hard drugs

Re:In effect, Seattle is decriminalizing the use of hard drugs by taurath on Friday August 23, 2019 @01:11PM (#20779840)

Interesting take on the situation - one key difference is I don’t feel any less safe now than 10 years ago walking around. I DO see more “open” use, and people walking around obviously on something, especially by the homeless (which makes sense even if they’re not using at a higher level). I don’t see the social services much though. IMO they could use more visibility. The prevailing opinion seems like we do “nothing”.

I’d like to see the stats on mortality and quality of life to those that get treatment though. It can’t be worse than locking nonviolent people up.

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Re:In effect, Seattle is decriminalizing the use of hard drugs by _jal on Friday August 23, 2019 @01:24PM (#20780018)

> I don’t see the social services much though.

What are you expecting, naxolone-wielding ninjas? Most social service work happens in offices, shelters, medical facilities and various volunteer orgs.

I certainly agree that we could do with a lot more of it.

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Re:In effect, Seattle is decriminalizing the use of hard drugs by magashna on Friday August 23, 2019 @01:29PM (#20780082)

The article mentions how it's difficult to reallocate the money saved on the court/prison system to the public health needs. Imagine what could be done if the same amount of money going towards imprisoning someone was instead spent on social services. Instead its easier for our politicians to stay "rah-rah" on punitive action.

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Re:In effect, Seattle is decriminalizing the use of hard drugs by sukilot on Friday August 23, 2019 @02:32PM (#20780903)

Imagine if we funded schools so kids could learn useful skills, and raised a progressive income tax so the working poor could keep more of what they earn!

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Re:In effect, Seattle is decriminalizing the use of hard drugs by allana on Friday August 23, 2019 @01:20PM (#20779966)

We don't have sufficent funding of social services to provide navigation teams and counselors to all of the visibly homeless (those you see on the street), never mind the thousands living in their cars in Seattle (the invisible homeless).

Seattle is doing what it can, but we need state and federal action to go further. We can't single handedly solve the severe wealth stratification that is worsening day by day :c

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Re:In effect, Seattle is decriminalizing the use of hard drugs by empath75 on Friday August 23, 2019 @01:23PM (#20780003)

or you know, Amazon and Microsoft could throw in some cash.

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Re:In effect, Seattle is decriminalizing the use of hard drugs by allana on Friday August 23, 2019 @01:57PM (#20780440)

Microsoft advocated for a tax on very large companies to fund social services to break the cycle of poverty leading to lack of opportunity for our youth: https://www.bizjournals.com/seattle/news/2019/07/21/amazon-m...

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Re:In effect, Seattle is decriminalizing the use of hard drugs by sukilot on Friday August 23, 2019 @02:33PM (#20780913)

Microsoft's CEO lobbied for a progressive income tax that mountain residents voted down.

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Re:In effect, Seattle is decriminalizing the use of hard drugs by SlowRobotAhead on Friday August 23, 2019 @02:27PM (#20780837)

>I don’t feel any less safe now than 10 years ago walking around

As someone who has trained and trained with police... I can tell you those words are dangerous. So many people who gets their lives upturned by some mostly preventable event has used those words.

Pay attention, no matter where you live. Personally if people are shooting up near me and the police are selectively enforcing the law, “feel safe” isn’t going to be in my vocabulary, but I don’t know you or what your situation is. That’s just my view from being aware of how fast things can go bad.

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Re:In effect, Seattle is decriminalizing the use of hard drugs by entropea on Friday August 23, 2019 @01:54PM (#20780406)

>Interesting take on the situation - one key difference is I don’t feel any less safe now than 10 years ago walking around.

Exactly. I don't feel unsafe walking around Seattle at all, even with junkies screaming their heads off. You learn that they're in their own universe and don't really care about you.

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