Re:Marshal Zhukov's Pocket Knife
by walkingolof on Wednesday August 21, 2019 @03:10AM
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"an American general at the time expressed the desire that Germans would henceforth be a “nation of shepherds”, incapable of playing a major part in world affairs—yet shortly after the war’s end, it was well on its way to accomplishing the Wirtschaftswunder, the economic miracle that it maintains to this day. Japan arose the ashes in a similar fashion. And the United States…the country that for the entire postwar period served as a source of aspiration for people the world over, a model of domestic stability and good governance, and a guarantor of its allies’ military security, is now riven by toxic political discord and stands at the brink of social collapse."
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I don't agree with that last statement at all. Americans have seen too little hardship to have an idea what "social collapse" and "toxic political discord" is.
Re:Marshal Zhukov's Pocket Knife
by mieseratte on Wednesday August 21, 2019 @06:12AM
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Considering my family lived through WWII in the thick of it and later came to America, and this is not a unique occurrence, to say “Americans don’t know” is just wrong.
Re:Marshal Zhukov's Pocket Knife
by dsfyu404ed on Wednesday August 21, 2019 @06:58AM
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I think by "Americans" he means "the upper middle class Nth (N>=4 or so) generation Americans that dominate political discourse the 364 days of the year that aren't election day"
Re:Marshal Zhukov's Pocket Knife
by rawTruthHurts on Wednesday August 21, 2019 @07:21AM
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'“Americans don’t know” is just wrong.'
Not so much. Sounds to me that, if you consider your family american, by your description they sound more like "european immigrants with the paperwork done".
Re:Marshal Zhukov's Pocket Knife
by MichaelMoser123 on Wednesday August 21, 2019 @04:15AM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morgenthau_Plan that wasn't a general: " It was first proposed by United States Secretary of the Treasury Henry Morgenthau Jr."
"is now riven by toxic political discord and stands at the brink of social collapse."
lol wut?
the USA has seen a incredible rise on so many fronts: quality of life, removal of segregation, rights of gays, right of blacks, rights of women, emergence of computing, emergence of startups, and so, so many more. to say that the US is on the brink of collapse shows the author doesn't really understand the situation, or is simply pushing a narrative.
Re:Marshal Zhukov's Pocket Knife
by walkingolof on Wednesday August 21, 2019 @08:08AM
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I think you and the quote is both right in some sense...