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Re:Hundreds of extreme self-citing scientists revealed in ne... by MaxBarraclough on Tuesday August 20, 2019 @04:43PM (#20751897)
I don't see that it's the Cobra effect. Did it actively make them less productive?
Re:Hundreds of extreme self-citing scientists revealed in ne... by HarryHirsch on Tuesday August 20, 2019 @04:51PM (#20751979)
Publication standards are different between disciplines. Traditionally, a materials chemist publishes many times more papers than a structural biologist. With a metric like that, you run whole sub-disciplines out of town.
Re:Hundreds of extreme self-citing scientists revealed in ne... by Gibbon1 on Tuesday August 20, 2019 @05:30PM (#20752406)
Reminds me of a theater professor I know who was having trouble meeting the new rigorous rules for tenure.

Publish? What and where exactly?

Re:Hundreds of extreme self-citing scientists revealed in ne... by duskwuff on Tuesday August 20, 2019 @04:58PM (#20752063)
If it means that some academics are choosing to cite their own papers rather than keeping up to date on the literature of their field, there's likely to be some potential insights missed.
Re:Hundreds of extreme self-citing scientists revealed in ne... by lonelappde on Tuesday August 20, 2019 @05:17PM (#20752261)
There's no reason to assume that adding a self cite affects how much they read others.
Re:Hundreds of extreme self-citing scientists revealed in ne... by usrusr on Wednesday August 21, 2019 @12:32PM (#20758838)
Not self-citing in incremental work would be like a software team erasing commit history at the beginning of each sprint, claiming that it's all new code. The post-metric amount of self citing might be less misleading than what they did before.
Re:Hundreds of extreme self-citing scientists revealed in ne... by melling on Tuesday August 20, 2019 @05:26PM (#20752364)
People who are rewarded are the people most cited, even if they are citing themselves.

Think that’s producing the best scientific results?

Re:Hundreds of extreme self-citing scientists revealed in ne... by reallydude on Tuesday August 20, 2019 @05:32PM (#20752433)
> Think that’s producing the best scientific results?

That's a strawman. The answer you were looking for is, "I don't know". I don't know either.

Re:Hundreds of extreme self-citing scientists revealed in ne... by melling on Tuesday August 20, 2019 @05:46PM (#20752547)
I’d say it makes Publish or perish even worse:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Publish_or_perish